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    Muslims usually interpret the verse from sura Saf as Jesus literally predicting the name of the prophet that would come after him. What would be the equivalent of that Arabic name in Jesus' tongue? Also it could cause confusion since anyone using that name could claim to fulfill the prophecy.

    Almost all if not all Arabic names have a meaning. "Ahmad" is a superrlative of hamd (to praise) and means worthy of praise/much revered. I believe the prophet Jesus is simply stating in that verse that the name of the prophet that would come after him will be worthy of praise/much revered. The final prophet fulfills this prophecy everyday and anyone can objectively witness it.

    "wamubashiran birasulin ya'ti min baadi ismuhu ahmadu"
    "and giving the good news of a rasul after me whose name shall be worthy of praise/much revered"
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    41:53 We will soon show them Our signs in the Universe and in their own souls, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth.

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    But the Quran says litteray "ismuhu Ahmad" that can only be translated to "whose name shall be Ahmad"...
    But you know it's an interesting observation, the name of the prophet (pbuh) is actually Muhammad not Ahmad. (I know they have the same root and the prophet was called Ahmad too).

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    Quote Originally Posted by faithful
    But the Quran says litteray "ismuhu Ahmad" that can only be translated to "whose name shall be Ahmad"...
    As i said

    Almost all if not all Arabic names have a meaning. "Ahmad" is a superrlative of hamd (to praise) and means worthy of praise/much revered.
    41:53 We will soon show them Our signs in the Universe and in their own souls, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naderM View Post
    As i said
    Quran mentioned other names and they are specific to these people, or Prophets, should we apply the same rule there too ?
    So, too, the creeds of man: the one prevails
    Until the other comes; and this one fails
    When that one triumphs; ay, the lonesome world
    Will always want the latest fairy tales.
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    Sumuqe made a point... in my understanding, the name IS Ahmad indeed, not the meaning of the name itself.. I can be wrong ofcourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faithful View Post
    Sumuqe made a point... in my understanding, the name IS Ahmad indeed, not the meaning of the name itself.. I can be wrong ofcourse.
    In surah Maryam, Allah says:

    O Zacharias, We give thee good news of a boy, whose name is John
    It is the same form as when Jesus makes the prophecy regarding Ahmed. Ahmed was an actual name of the Prophet (S) and he was known by both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ihsan View Post
    In surah Maryam, Allah says:
    It is the same form as when Jesus makes the prophecy regarding Ahmed. Ahmed was an actual name of the Prophet (S) and he was known by both.
    We share the same opinion.
    So you confirm for me that the name of the prophet (pbuh) was Ahmad too right?

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    the sister wrote:

    "Sumuqe made a point... in my understanding, the name IS Ahmad indeed, not the meaning of the name itself.. I can be wrong ofcourse."


    Quote Originally Posted by ihsan View Post
    In surah Maryam, Allah says:

    Zacharias, We give thee good news of a boy, whose name is John

    It is the same form as when Jesus makes the prophecy regarding Ahmed. Ahmed was an actual name of the Prophet (S) and he was known by both.
    brother assalamualaikum

    if someone were to object and say that Allah mentioned one of yahya's attributes which was hanan
    ,"wa hananan min ladunna... " ,but for the name Ahmad an attribute was not mentioned or linked to it.what is the response to this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by faithful View Post
    We share the same opinion.
    So you confirm for me that the name of the prophet (pbuh) was Ahmad too right?
    Yep...
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    God does not give them courage." - Bulleh Shah

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    Quote Originally Posted by theman09 View Post
    brother assalamualaikum

    if someone were to object and say that Allah mentioned one of yahya's attributes which was hanan
    ,"wa hananan min ladunna... " ,but for the name Ahmad an attribute was not mentioned or linked to it.what is the response to this?
    Wa salaam,

    An attribute may be qualified to a name for a particular reason in one instance and in another, an attribute may not even be used. It really depends on the context. In cases where John's qualities are mentioned, it seems to high-light certain aspect of his personality in relation to the overall thrust of the message, which included the fact that ALlah blessed Prophet Zechariah with such a personality, despite the overall corruption in the priestly line of Israel.
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    It's an interesting coincidence that the Prophet's (pbuh) birth name was actually Ahmad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    It's an interesting coincidence that the Prophet's (pbuh) birth name was actually Ahmad.
    Exactly, and it is a fact most Muslims are not really aware of. Muhammad was his other name.
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    quran makes a habit of using 2 names to refer to the same item. for example, mecca is called bukka sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theman09 View Post
    the sister wrote:

    "Sumuqe made a point... in my understanding, the name IS Ahmad indeed, not the meaning of the name itself.. I can be wrong ofcourse."
    brother assalamualaikum

    if someone were to object and say that Allah mentioned one of yahya's attributes which was hanan
    ,"wa hananan min ladunna... " ,but for the name Ahmad an attribute was not mentioned or linked to it.what is the response to this?
    But in this verse, the Quran doesn't say that his name is hanaan, so in this case the attribute itself is what was mentionned.

    Quote Originally Posted by ihsan View Post
    Exactly, and it is a fact most Muslims are not really aware of. Muhammad was his other name.
    So Ahmad is the real name. I knew that the prophet had others names which are attributes also (like Sadiq/Amine...) but I thought that the real name is Muhammad... Intersesting.
    But the Quran aslo mentionned the name of Muhammad (pbuh) many times, so i'm wondering why the choice of the name Ahmad was mentionned in that verse exactly.

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    His birth name was Ahmad (pbuh) and his nickname was Muhammad.

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