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So, too, the creeds of man: the one prevails
Until the other comes; and this one fails
When that one triumphs; ay, the lonesome world
Will always want the latest fairy tales.
Al-Ma'arri
Piety gone berzeck.
1.4 billion people live under the poverty line - 1.25 USD per day. 20000 Africans die needlessly everyday due to AIDS, malaria and TB. 1.02 billion people do not have enough to eat. 3/4s of this are rural poor farmers who will also bear the brunt of global warming.
Well, it protects against the sun, and you know how our people love the fair skin in the sub-continent... It also leads to abnormally low vitamin D levels, which growing evidence is linking to a culprit of many diseases, icnluding diabetes and cancer.
"Those who deny the strength of truth,
God does not give them courage." - Bulleh Shah
I don't believe most people live in those regions in reality. As far as the populations up North, it must not have been bad at all, because they use to eat a lot of fish and seal and got their vitamin D level from the oil and liver, i.e. natural resources. I don't know if any real study has been done particularly in regards to their D3 levels, but it would be safe bet to assume it was high, considering the levels of D3 in seal and fish oil. Reserachers do know that as long as the Western Diet was introduced and the traditional staple food items were abandoned by populations up North, the health has gotten progressively worse. This is essentially what happened to the Inuit population, which are people like the eskimos in Canada. There was a study done that spoke about how the introduction of the diet, as well as cigarette smoking had caused a whole series of new problems for the Inuit populations.
The problem of vitamin D deficiency, according to most experts, is a world-wide phenomenon, and there are some studies being done on Muslim women in particular, because of their type of dress. I'd think if men were targetted in these studies as well, you'd find a similar condition.
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/6/1565
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSHAR56610220070625
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12149082
Last edited by ihsan; 5th March 2010 at 18:50.
"Those who deny the strength of truth,
God does not give them courage." - Bulleh Shah
That's sad...the fact that we can't even check the veracity of a story or video...
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/w...comments/5117/
Ron, that actually happens even if the video was a hoax. I'll bet that the people who came up with the idea for the video did see such burqa-piety in their neighbourhood. They simply creativey modified it to show spaghetti as the food instead of dal roti. I know of people who do that. You really must travel to the orthodox muslim ghettos of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh for that. Perhaps there are such folks in UK too.
Last edited by vinod; 6th March 2010 at 04:08.
1.4 billion people live under the poverty line - 1.25 USD per day. 20000 Africans die needlessly everyday due to AIDS, malaria and TB. 1.02 billion people do not have enough to eat. 3/4s of this are rural poor farmers who will also bear the brunt of global warming.
from the hoax site:
I've never seen a woman eat while wearing a burqa, but I assume she would lift the fabric covering her mouth up. She wouldn't try to shove food down from the top.
I saw a muslim in complete ornate at the dentist.. I wonder
“The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.” ~ Mahatma Gandhi
Whatever happened to, "whatever floats your boat"...especially on this forum. If someone wants to wear that eat like that, let them...if someone wants to eat in the nude and shove food in places that food doesn't belong...let them.
But hey, since we are all in the mood, I'll join too...
Lol, look at these morons pouring tar and feathering the bride with eggs and stuff..lloooooooooooooorrflrfoflrorlfl thsi si tjust tooo funny...roftlfrofrofrofrl.
hahahahah funny idiot germands kidnap[s the bride hahakaahahaha funnmy.
looll dumb smelly hairy armpitted frech banging their posts and pasn safere asomeone gets married lmaolmaomlaom soo funny...lets all pointa nd alsuagh at these smelly french people hahahahai akdhl aha..
loolk african dumb people live with tigers and lioonsa and eat stuff and jump over brooms lmao..l....soo funny.
I hope we've all gotten that out of our systems. Now lets go back to being civilized and not caring about what one culture does...especially when it doesn't affect us in the smallest bit. It's not morally wrong for her to wear the niqab as much as it is not morally wrong for these people to practice their customs like this. I can already foresee the replies...
Don’t depend too much on anyone in this world... because even your own shadow leaves you when you are in darkness." -Ibn Taymiyyah
Salam,Oh, how I wish things were that simple. Try asking a lady in, say, Saudi Arabia whether she likes to eat like that, and you might get a different answer.
I appreciate the efforts to make wearing the Burqa a nice little thing of no more significance than other quaint and cute traditions, I really do, but you and I know that is not reality.
Regards,
think
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The point is let people be. I find some things in my culture beyond stupid and many other cultures, but I dont go about making a joke out of it. And yes, lets be real, those of us who are agaisnt the niqab...do we really care about that person or do we want to project our own opinions and use woman's right and freedom as a platform to attack Islam and suggest how backwards Muslims are...lets get real.
Also, dont read too far into the pictures and my previous post...like i said, it has a simple point.
Don’t depend too much on anyone in this world... because even your own shadow leaves you when you are in darkness." -Ibn Taymiyyah
Vinod,
Whether it happens or not is not the issue. The issue was that this video speaks for itself; remember, "no comment." The incendiary lit the fire an walked away. Then came the comments, justified or unjustified, but nevertheless attacking. It's as if we no longer choose to think and we just jump on our preconceptions. We fire off, usually off the cuff probably without taking into consideration the negativity that is seeded between people. Do I really need to go to the "Orthodox Muslim" ghettos of anywhere? I'm sure there are unpleasant things in other communities even if they are not related to the burqa. Besides, since the video is fake why should it be accepted as being real and react to it? It's one thing to do a comedy routine and completely another when talking about reality, regardless of how much the former reflects the latter.Ron, that actually happens even if the video was a hoax. I'll bet that the people who came up with the idea for the video did see such burqa-piety in their neighbourhood. They simply creativey modified it to show spaghetti as the food instead of dal roti. I know of people who do that. You really must travel to the orthodox muslim ghettos of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh for that. Perhaps there are such folks in UK too.
Regards
Salam Aamantubillah,Yes, indeed. Let's get real. Let's understand that criticising a muslim is not the same as attacking a religion. Let's understand coercion is coercion, whether it's done behind a very, very thin religious veil or not. Let's understand it's not about women's rights, it's about human rights. Let's understand to point misogyny out is not the same as saying a religion must be destroyed, especially if that misogyny didn't even originate in Islam. Let's understand we're not speaking about an isolated, unfortunate incident here and there, we're talking about the mass subjugation of half the society. Let's understand this has as much to do with Islam as honor killings have. Let's understand one cannot obfuscate the issue by playing the victim. Let's understand we're talking about double standards.
Let's get real.
Regards,
think
Wasalam,
You're proposing things in a way so as to make it seem as if I am with some understanding that it is okay to do any of the negative things you've mentioned when in fact the basic message of my post is as clear as the sky (its a clear blue sky here today). There are proper ways to go about talking about anything, making fun is not that way. You can contort what I said into a list of things that I apparently have touched on (which I have not), but the fact is, posting a video in that way to laugh at niqabi's is not the way to go about this. There are ways to address what you've mentioned...namely words and a brain with the ability to converse in a non-insulting/joking way. You can mentioned a thousand and one different things in regard to the application of the niqab, but the fact that one should be polite has nothing to do with it, especially if those very same people don't care about the people behind that niqab for who they really are.
Last edited by aamantubillah; 6th March 2010 at 17:09.
Don’t depend too much on anyone in this world... because even your own shadow leaves you when you are in darkness." -Ibn Taymiyyah