al-Sistani and Abu Mus'ab Al-Zarqawi

[newsX]

There seems to be a difference in opinions between these two power-brokers:

While Ayutullah Sistani outrightly declares that voting is a religious duty, al-Zarqawi blatently condemns the whole exercise:

"Take care not to go near the centers of heresy and abomination, that is, the election [booths.] He who has warned has carried out his duty; [if something happens] do not blame us, but yourselves."

http://memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD85605

Question is, where does the buck stop? Who's right, and who's wrong? Does being a Shia or Sunni factor into the question?

[The_Other_Admin]

The difference is Al-Zarqawi is not a religious leader, on the other hand Sayyed Sistani is. Among the sunnis Al-Zarqawi is not comparable in religious education like Hamza Yusuf, Dr. Zakir Naik, and Kabbani (sufi) to name the few. Sunni religious system is a very decentralized system and in recent history no religious sunni leader has taken a central role... there is no legitimate central leadership among sunnis at the moment.

[Ahmed Waheed]

Assalam . . .

They don't really have much of a choice over there. They have to vote, if they are to have someone as their leader.

Wassalam . . .

[Hashim]

Abu musab al zarqawi, is a looking at it from the islamic point of view. Voting and elections, etc, all manifestations of democracy which is haraam. Which is what he is saying. Al sistani on the other hand, is a shia leader, and very much biased and alligned with the US., so he wants to keep them happy with his views.

[newsX]

Abu musab al zarqawi, is a looking at it from the islamic point of view. Voting and elections, etc, all manifestations of democracy which is haraam. Which is what he is saying. Al sistani on the other hand, is a shia leader, and very much biased and alligned with the US., so he wants to keep them happy with his views.

dear hash,

I am very interested to know, how do the essential principals of democracy contradict islam?

I find zarqawi's arguments unconvincing and a little half-crazed, honestly. From a theological standpoint, is it permissable for an ordinary man like zarqawi to make such pronouncements?

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Your accusation that sistani is baised on the side of the west is rather a tall order. You once said that the west were the ones who were bombing shia shrines, didn't you? Well, Sistani is the head honcho of shia movement in iraq.

I think both lines of thought are rather contradictory. Can you articulate this for us?

[syedhs]

Salam all,

I am asking a totally different but somehow still related. Can you find Abu-Musa'b Al-Zarqawi's biography? I mean a complete one. I cant even find more than 3-4 different pictures of him? And Fallujah people doesnt know him. And USA army last time when invaded Fallujah, they said they were after him. But then after killing lots of men, Abu Musa'b Al-Zarqawi seems untouched, he seems escaped unhurt? I wish I have lots of time to research about him on the net at least, but I really have the feeling Abu Musa'b Al-Zarqawi is fictitious character. Anyone care to spend some time to search for his biography?

[Ron]

Salam All,

This maybe a silly question but why does one of this Zarqawi hide his face behind a mask when he beheads people? Wouldn't it be silly for Osama bin Laden to do the same thing and send out videos of himself? They're both infamous what makes one hide and the other not?

Regards

P.S. It's interesting that Bin Laden is on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list but Zarqawi didn't get the honors.

[Ahmed Waheed]

Salam All,

This maybe a silly question but why does one of this Zarqawi hide his face behind a mask when he beheads people? Wouldn't it be silly for Osama bin Laden to do the same thing and send out videos of himself? They're both infamous what makes one hide and the other not?

Regards

P.S. It's interesting that Bin Laden is on the FBI's 10 Most Wanted list but Zarqawi didn't get the honors.

Assalam . . .

I don't have a clue. :shakehead

Wassalam . . .

[Pak Army]

Brothers first lets clear is Sistani muslim ? then continue the debate in my view AL-zarqavi is 100 times better muslim then Sexstanis {shia kaffir}

[Ahmed Waheed]

Assalam . . .

It is easy enough for me to say that about Sunni's and Shia. Please do provide your evidence and bring four witnesses other than Allah, if you are truthfull. This is no joking matter Pak Army.

Wassalam . . .

[razwan1979]

"Abu musab al zarqawi, is a looking at it from the islamic point of view"

I would laugh at this statement were not the issue so grave.

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi represents "the Islamic point of view" no more than I do. He is a nobody. If he even exists that is. People like this are nihilists. You know what nihlism is? Their "ideology" resembles 19th C Russian nihilism than it does anything Islamic. Where all humanity is lost. That or it is an extreme form of Manichaism. Even broadly, Islam (as a history or civilisation as well as a normative religion) doesn't recognise manichaism.

Despite the fact my own religious beliefs are the antithesis of Twelver Shi'a, I would ask the moderators to tick off the individual "Pak Army" because his last comments were simply derogatory insults aimed at someone of importance to other religious people. We don't like someone doing it to our religious personalities; why stand for it the other way?

salaam

P.S. Ron: I believe the most wanted list of the FBI is for crimes on American soil. Zarqawi heads their most wanted terrorist list, which includes individuals who act "against American interests" outside the US (as well as inside).

[Ahmed Waheed]

Assalam . . .

No. I would say; try out the forgiveness therapy!

We should learn how to forgive people for their mistakes.

Wassalam . . .

[Hashim]

Razwan, leave pak army alone. Who are you to go around telling admin to 'tick people off'. How would you like it i said to the admin to ban you? Ih he reads what you wrote, do you think he wil vist understanding-islam again??!! Sort yourself out, thats out of order!

[Ahmed Waheed]

Assalam . . . Hash
:strong:
Take it easy. People do make minor mistakes.

Wassalam . . .

[Hashim]

Newsx, think about it. Islamic law is superior to man-made law in every way! Divine law, is better than democracy anyday! For the muslims, we rule by allahs azzawajjal word. Our constitution is the qur'an, we live by islam, rule by islam. And besides, you see al zarqawis opinion as half crazed, tell me this. Half the country is destroyed, thousands slaughtered, the americans have turned the country to rubble. The invading infidals, they kill all the civilans, women and children involved, ther is nowere left to vote! And also, tell me this...the elections are a sham, puppet government, puppet leader, puppet regime! Why would you vote? I don't understand?!! So what he is saying, how is it half crazed????!!!!