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    Paulpablo,

    Either you are ignoring the very examples in the definitions you provided or you are simply being dishonest. Moreover, you can't even argue the English with any credibility but you want to discuss how the word day is used in Arabic? I think your last two posts exemplify your attitude toward trying to ascertain any truth. You would think in this day and age people would be more honest considering the amount of information at their fingertips.

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    Your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days and then settled Himself firmly on the Throne... (Qur'an, 7:54)

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    1a : the time of light between one night and the next b : daylight 1 c : daytime
    2: the period of rotation of a planet (as earth) or a moon on its axis
    3: the mean solar day of 24 hours beginning at mean midnight
    4: a specified day or date
    5: a specified time or period : age <in grandfather's day> —often used in plural <the old days> <the days of sailing ships>
    6: the conflict or contention of the day <played hard and won the day>
    7: the time established by usage or law for work, school, or business

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    Which one of these definitions do you think is best applied to the statement made in the quran here?
    1 god created the heaven and the earth in 6 daytimes
    2 he created the heaven and the earth in 6 rotations of the earth on its axis
    3 six days, each day equal to 24 hour time periods
    4 six specific dates which makes no sense
    5 he created the world in 6 grandfathers days
    6 idiomatic expression has nothing to do with what were talking about
    7 he created the world in 6 working days

    Considering he was making this statement specifically to humans, in a human language to people who lived in the middle east around 2000 years ago, and considering that they for all this time have understood that word to mean 24 hours.
    Its only now that science has proven the bible and the quran and the torah stories of creation to be a myth that these religions are changing their stories to fit in with what science has proven

    Or maybe the quran is wrong and is being bailed out again by saying "this word means many things in arabic and the translators got it wrong all this time"
    just like when people uses excuses about the wife beating verse saying beat doesnt mean beat, just like when people make excuses for the quran saying man was created from between the backbone and ribs saying backbone doesnt mean backbone and ribs doesnt mean ribs, now we come to the point where day doesnt mean day.
    The original translators have a lot to answer for if they managed to get all these verses wrong.

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    Also ive lost count of the amount of times you have said i dont know what im talking about, and that im wrong, without actually showing me where im wrong or providing evidence to the contrary, if you can show me definitions of the arabic word for day and show me how its used in the quran then i will completely admit im wrong, but as for how the word day is used in english ive been using english for 28 years, my entire life, and i know how the word day is used in order to express a period of time by now.

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    Sahih International
    Indeed, your Lord is Allah , who created the heavens and earth in six days and then established Himself above the Throne. He covers the night with the day, [another night] chasing it rapidly; and [He created] the sun, the moon, and the stars, subjected by His command. Unquestionably, His is the creation and the command; blessed is Allah , Lord of the worlds.
    Muhsin Khan
    Indeed your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He Istawa (rose over) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly, and (He created) the sun, the moon, the stars subjected to His Command. Surely, His is the Creation and Commandment. Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists)!
    Pickthall
    Lo! your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days, then mounted He the Throne. He covereth the night with the day, which is in haste to follow it, and hath made the sun and the moon and the stars subservient by His command. His verily is all creation and commandment. Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the Worlds!
    Yusuf Ali
    Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: He created the sun, the moon, and the stars, (all) governed by laws under His command. Is it not His to create and to govern? Blessed be Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds!
    Shakir
    Surely your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six periods of time, and He is firm in power; He throws the veil of night over the day, which it pursues incessantly; and (He created) the sun and the moon and the stars, made subservient by His command; surely His is the creation and the command; blessed is Allah, the Lord of the worlds.
    Dr. Ghali
    Surely your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days. Thereafter He leveled Himself upon the Throne (How He did so is beyond human understanding). He envelops the daytime (with) the night, (which) seeks it out promptly, and the sun, and the moon, and the stars are subjected to His Command. Verily, to Him (belong) the creation and the Command. Supremely Blessed be Allah, The Lord of the worlds.

    Verily, your Lord is God who created the heavens and the earth in six days; then He made for the Throne. He covers night with the day - it pursues it incessantly - and the sun and the moon and the stars are subject to His bidding. Aye!- His is the creation and the bidding,- blessed be God the Lord of the worlds!

    These are 7 independent translations of the quran from arabic to english, all of them using the word day, not age, not unspecific time period, not anything else but day.
    Only one of them mentions the word period of time, which could mean anything
    And if you know of a different way the english word day could be used within this frame work let me know. If you know the arabic word has been translated wrongly here then you should get in touch with the english translators because all 7 of them and more are getting it wrong.

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    PP,

    People like you come and go. If you were sincere I would be happy to have a discussion with you. However, the fact the you would try to manipulate the dictionary with its definitions and examples that explicitly contradict your assertion makes me believe you have no interest in a real and honest discussion. It's sad that in 28 years you haven't learned but only one form of the word "day" to only mean 24 hours. You will never admit you are wrong because you've been shown to be wrong; you even take on subjects like the Arabic language and know nothing about it but insist on challenging.

    Anyway, I've wasted enough time...you've had your day (use it as you please)...but now it's over because trolls are not welcome...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulpablo View Post
    no it still doesnt make sense, if the quran says days it means days. the concept of days is how long it takes the earth to rotate once.
    No in the Quran the concept of time and day (yawm) with Allah is relative and it is used for any period of time 22:47,23:112-114,16:77 from a moment 55:29 to fifty thousand years 70:4 and may therefore indicate an indefinitely small or indefinitely large space of time. This shows you that the length of the day is not a factor, but the completion of the task is what matter, making a day of God variable according to the task. For example the Day of judgement is called yawm and we know that following the cataclysms in the heavens and earth, the current concept of time will be entirely different.
    41:53 We will soon show them Our signs in the Universe and in their own souls, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth.

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    I Do not know about this fact but the Allah Almighty clearly says in Holy Quraan in

    "Indeed your Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He Istawa (rose over) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly, and (He created) the sun, the moon, the stars subjected to His Command. Surely, His is the Creation and Commandment. Blessed be Allah, the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists)!" (7:54)

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    Yea, i agree in have good content and I would like to know if you have any other posts, thanks!

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