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    The following article is taken from the site of ahlesunnah wal jammah

    In the last few years the term 'Wahhabi' has become infamous among the Muslims, however, there is very little understanding among the general Muslim populace as to the exact meaning of this term 'Wahhabi'.

    Some say that there is no such thing as a 'Wahhabi' it is only a myth. Others say that a 'Wahhabi' is a person believes in Allah's attribute of Al-Wahhab. Yet others say that to call someone a 'Wahhabi' is an insult. So what is the mystery surrounding this term 'Wahhabi' ?

    As to those who say that there is no such thing as a Wahhabi, they are either misinformed or lack knowledge on the subject. That leaves us with the other two possibilities as mentioned above. A Mullah in a local mosque in South London gave a lengthy Jum'a Khutba on the term Wahhabi. The Mullah was called a Wahhabi by a worshipper and the Mullah decided to clear his name. The Mullah argued, that, yes he was a Wahhabi because he believed in the attribute of Allah, Al-Wahhab.

    It was an excellent attempt by this Mullah to clear his name and hide the facts. Ask yourself, why did a worshipper at the mosque call this Mullah a 'Wahhabi', the worshippers could have used any of Allah's other famous 99 attributes, why call the Mullah a 'Wahhabi'? And if the Mullah believes that he is a Wahhabi on account of his belief in the attribute of Allah Al-Wahhab, then why make such a song and dance about clearing his name as a 'Wahhabi'?

    In short, the Mullah was offended when the worshipper called him a Wahhabi, this clearly indicates that there is more to this term 'Wahhabi' then meets the eye. So, we are left with the third possibility which indicates that there is something sinister about the term 'Wahhabi'. And to accuse someone of being a 'Wahhabi' is an insulting remark, but why? We shall now clearly define the term 'Wahhabi' and how it came about.

    1. A 'Wahhabi' is a person who follows the teachings of a Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi. Just as we call people who follow the Madhab of Imam Abu Hanifa(RA), Hanafi. Wahhabis are not called 'Wahhabis' because they believe in Allah's attribute Al-Wahhab, all Muslims believe in Allah's attribute Al-Wahhab.

    2. Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi was born in 1699 and died in 1792. Before he appeared, there was no such term as 'Wahhabi'.

    3. Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi rebelled against the Akida of Ahle Sunna Wa Jama'a and established his own Wahhabi School of thought. He took as his mentor Ibn Taimiyya (b1263/d1328), who also had rebelled against the Akida of Ahle Sunna Wa Jama'a and established his own school of thought.

    4. Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi was spoon feed and supported by the British Government who were looking for rebellious people like Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi to destroy the Islamic Caliphate from within its self. (Read the 'Confessions of a British spy' for a detailed account of Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi's partnership with the British).

    5. Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi was despised by his father and brother, who were both learned ulama of the Ahle Sunna Wa Jama'a. Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi's brother, Sheikh Suleman, refuted Wahhabism in his book 'As-sawa'iq al-ilahiyya fi'r-raddi'ala 'i-Wahahabiya'.

    6. Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahhab Najdi declared the Ahle Sunna Wa Jama'a as 'Kafirs'. He passed a ruling that it was lawful to kill men, women and children belonging to the Ahle Sunna Wa Jama'a. In fact, it is recorded in the books of history, that, the Wahhabis killed over 100,000 thousand Muslim men and enslaved the women and children.

    7. Wahhabis came into power by torturing and killing Muslims. They finally took Mecca with the help of the British in 1924 and bombarded the Shrine of the Holy Prophet(Sallalahu alayhi wa sallam) in Medina. But it was in 1931 that they finally took Medina. And in 1932 the Wahhabis founded the state of Saudi Arabia.

    These, then are the beliefs and atrocities that the Wahhabis committed not too far in history but they have managed to cover their tracks successfully with 'Petro-Dollars', by buying the weak Iman of some corrupt scholars who also became Wahhabis. So, the Mullah in the Mosque gave a totally misconstrued definition of a 'Wahhabi'. He was in reality offended when the worshipper called him a Wahhabi, because the Mullah knew full well what the worshipper meant when he called him a Wahhabi. The worshipper clearly knew the account of the Wahhabi history of murder and disrespect towards the Prophet(Sallalahu alayhi wa sallam). Our Mullah belongs to the Deobandi school of thought and this is what one of the founding fathers of the Deobandi/Tableeghi movement had to say about the Wahhabis.

    "Mohammed Ibne Abdul Wahhab is known as a Wahhabi. His beliefs were excellent."

    (Fatawa-e-Rashidia, Book 1,pp/111 by Rashid Ahmed Gangoi).

    Now when the founding father of the Deobandi/Tableeghi school of thought praises the Wahhabi beliefs, then surely he also condones the slaughter and rape of the Muslims by these very Wahhabis. He also condones the Bombing of the Holy Shrine of the Prophet(Sallalahu alayhi wa sallam). Then, we the Sunni Muslims, would like to know, why the Deobandis/ Tableeghis object on being called Wahhabis, when their own leader has praised the Wahhabis for their 'excellent beliefs'?

    We seriously urge the unsuspecting Muslim populace to rethink their views and study the recent Islamic history in respect of the Wahhabi/Deobandi/ Tableeghi movements which all stand for the same cause but under different names.

    It will be seen that these three notorious movements are bent on defaming the Holy Prophet(Sallalahu alayhi wa sallam) and destroying Islam from the inside. These three movements are the products of British Conspiracies and nothing else.

    For too long the Sunni Muslims have been sitting idle, while the Wahhabi/Deobandi/Tableeghi movements have brain washed our Sunni brothers & sisters. They have destroyed the very fabric of our pure beliefs and polluted our Mosques with their twisted beliefs. These people never debate with the learned scholars of the Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat, fearing the lose of face should their congregations hear of their defeat. They always run away making an excuse of not wanting to make fitna, when in reality they are the fitna makers who have divided the Muslim communities everywhere.

    Now it is up to you fair minded Muslims to study the beliefs of these movements, their leaders and their aims. And it is up to you fair minded Muslims to ask Mosque committees to allow Sunni Muslims to preach and practice true Islam. Why should only the Wahhabis, Deobandis and Tableeghis have control of all our Mosques. Why don't the Mosque committees allow Ahle Sunna scholars to lead prayer, is it because, like the Wahhabis, they think that Ahle Sunna Muslims are Kafirs?

    Yes, we need to ask these question to the Mosque committees, unless the committee members are themselves Wahhabis, they should allow the Sunni Muslims to use the Mosques for Milad-un-Nabi, Salat-o-Salaam on Fridays and Urs Sharif. If the beliefs of the Ahle Sunna Wal Jama'a are wrong, then prove it, come and debate with as face to face!

    Because the Wahhabis could not dominate the Muslims of the Indian Subcontinent with their corrupt beliefs, they bought a few corrupt Mullahs to do their dirty work for them. These Mullahs pretended to be Sunni Muslims until such a time when they had brainwashed enough unsuspecting Sunni Muslims, then they declared their corrupt beliefs openly.

    It is about time that the Mosque committees did justice to the Muslim populace. It is about time they accepted the truth instead of running away from it. It is about time that they realised they will have to carry the burden of all the congregation, whom they have allowed to be exposed to Wahhabi beliefs.

    We only pray that Allah opens the eyes and minds of the Mosque committee members and makes them distinguish truth from falsehood. Ameen.

    May Allah protect us from these evil movements and their beliefs. May Allah give us the strength to speak the truth. Ameen.
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    ARE YOU NOT SHIA OR FOLLOWERS OF MALIKI ,HANAFI ,HUMBALI AND OTHER sunni IMAMS.

    The difference is that we have holded the recommended imams who are the ropes of allah and the one granted with authority.

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    have you ever read anything from ibn abdul wahhab?


    you might like this

    http://uiforum.uaeforum.org/showthread.php?t=8581
    Islamic Thought In the Modern Era of the Islamic Awakening: Dissemination of Islamic research and studies
    al-Mustaqeem Publications
    “The bonds of Islam will be broken one by one. Every time a bond is undone, the people will cling to the bond that follows. The first of these bonds is rulership (khilaafa) and the last is the prayer (salah).” Reported by Ahmad and Tabarani. Al-Hakim stated that the chain is authentic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al-Boriqi View Post
    have you ever read anything from ibn abdul wahhab?


    you might like this

    http://uiforum.uaeforum.org/showthread.php?t=8581
    I CANT FOLLOW A PERSON WHO BOMBARDED THE SHRINE OF OUR HOLY PROPHET FOR MONEY IF YOU AGREE WITH HIM YOU ARE NOT A TRUE MUSLIM.
    ARE YOU NOT SHIA OR FOLLOWERS OF MALIKI ,HANAFI ,HUMBALI AND OTHER sunni IMAMS.

    The difference is that we have holded the recommended imams who are the ropes of allah and the one granted with authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haiderzaidi View Post
    I CANT FOLLOW A PERSON WHO BOMBARDED THE SHRINE OF OUR HOLY PROPHET FOR MONEY IF YOU AGREE WITH HIM YOU ARE NOT A TRUE MUSLIM.
    stop posting in capital letters.

    he didn't. lern your history

    thirdly, bombarding the kaba is not a nullifier of Islam.

    and someone who has nothing to do with Islam telling me I am not a true Muslim is actually nothing more than an increase of my faith in the aqeedah of ahlu-sunnah.

    and lastly, i didn;t ask you if you followed him, i asked you have you ever read his words before in any of his books, which is a world of difference from following him
    Islamic Thought In the Modern Era of the Islamic Awakening: Dissemination of Islamic research and studies
    al-Mustaqeem Publications
    “The bonds of Islam will be broken one by one. Every time a bond is undone, the people will cling to the bond that follows. The first of these bonds is rulership (khilaafa) and the last is the prayer (salah).” Reported by Ahmad and Tabarani. Al-Hakim stated that the chain is authentic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al-Boriqi View Post
    stop posting in capital letters.

    he didn't. lern your history

    thirdly, bombarding the kaba is not a nullifier of Islam.

    and someone who has nothing to do with Islam telling me I am not a true Muslim is actually nothing more than an increase of my faith in the aqeedah of ahlu-sunnah.

    and lastly, i didn;t ask you if you followed him, i asked you have you ever read his words before in any of his books, which is a world of difference from following him
    If you will agree with him in a single point so you are also agreeing with him on this point that he has done well in bombbarding the shrine of holy prophet.And re read my post i have written whoever obeys abdul wahab he is not a muslim.

    Some people say, "We believe in God and the Day of Judgment," but they are not true believers (2:8).

    They deceive God and the believers. However, they have deceived no one but themselves, a fact of which they are not aware (2:9). A sickness exists in their hearts to which God adds more sickness. Besides this, they will suffer a painful punishment as a result of the lie which they speak (2:10).

    When they are told not to commit corruption in the land, they reply, "We are only reformers" (2:11).

    They, certainly, are corrupt but do not realize it (2:12).

    When they are told to believe as everyone else does, they say, "Should we believe as fools do?" In fact, they themselves are fools, but they do not know it (2:13).

    To the believers they declare belief and, in secret to their own devils, they say, "We were only mocking" (2:14).

    God mocks them and gives them time to continue blindly in their transgressions (2:15).

    They have traded guidance for error, but their bargain has had no profit and they have missed the true guidance (2:16).

    (Their case) is like that of one who kindles a fire and when it grows bright God takes away its light leaving him in darkness (wherein) he cannot see (anything) (2:17).

    They are deaf, blind, and dumb and cannot regain their senses(2:18).
    ARE YOU NOT SHIA OR FOLLOWERS OF MALIKI ,HANAFI ,HUMBALI AND OTHER sunni IMAMS.

    The difference is that we have holded the recommended imams who are the ropes of allah and the one granted with authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haiderzaidi View Post
    Then, we the Sunni Muslims, would like to know, why the Deobandis/ Tableeghis object on being called Wahhabis, when their own leader has praised the Wahhabis for their 'excellent beliefs'?
    I thought you were Shia. So did you write that article or was it from somewhere else?

    And I had thought my choice was made with Islam. But apparently i have a choice to make from all these strange names...


    Naaah... i'll stick with Islam.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadiq_b View Post
    I thought you were Shia. So did you write that article or was it from somewhere else?

    And I had thought my choice was made with Islam. But apparently i have a choice to make from all these strange names...


    Naaah... i'll stick with Islam.


    Peace
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    P.S The above comment (in italic) was a sarcastic joke!
    Actually brother this is an article from those true sunnes who consider us true follower of ahlebaith .
    ARE YOU NOT SHIA OR FOLLOWERS OF MALIKI ,HANAFI ,HUMBALI AND OTHER sunni IMAMS.

    The difference is that we have holded the recommended imams who are the ropes of allah and the one granted with authority.

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