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    Polygamy in the U.S. is not limited to remote enclaves in the West or breakaway sects once affiliated with the Mormon Church. Several scholars say it's growing among black Muslims in the inner city — and particularly in Philadelphia, which is known for its large orthodox black Muslim community.

    No one knows exactly how many people live in polygamous families in the U.S. Estimates from academics researching the issue range from 50,000 to 100,000 people.

    Take Zaki and Mecca, who have been married for nearly 12 years. In their late 20s, they live in the Philadelphia suburbs, have a 5-year-old son and own a real estate business.

    Zaki also has something else: a second wife.

    Two years ago, Mecca told her husband she wanted to study Arabic in the Middle East, which would mean a lot of time away from home. (NPR is not using any full names in this story because some of those we interviewed could be prosecuted for bigamy.)

    "We were talking about it," Mecca recalls, "and the first thing that came to my mind was, 'I'm going to have to find you another wife!'"

    Zaki was game. After all, he had been raised in a polygamous home in Philadelphia. Like many black Muslims, his father subscribed to an orthodox view of Islam that allows a man to marry several women. Zaki says he loved having seven siblings and four mothers, especially at dinnertime.

    "I would find out who's making what that particular night. I know that this mom makes barbequed chicken better than my other mom makes fried chicken, so I'm going with the barbequed chicken tonight. Things of that nature," he says with a laugh.

    Unlike Zaki, Mecca was raised by a single mother and converted from Southern Baptist to Muslim when she was 16.

    .... Zaki believes ultimately, polygamy is good for society — especially in the inner city, where intact families are rare and many kids grow up without their fathers.

    "There are a lot of blessings in it because you're helping legitimize and build a family that's rooted in values and commitment. And the children that come out of those types of relationships only become a benefit to society at large."

    Many orthodox Muslims agree. You can find them on Fridays at a mosque in South Philadelphia.

    The congregation that has gathered in a slim townhouse is largely African-American. The rules are orthodox, and the prayers (if not the sermon) are in classical Arabic.

    Abdullah, the imam, has conducted religious ceremonies for a dozen polygamous marriages.

    Abdullah says polygamy in Islam dates back to the 7th century, when battles were killing off Muslim men and leaving widows and children unprotected.

    As a result, Abdullah says, the Koran specifies that a man can marry "women of your choice: two, three, four, and if you fear you cannot be just, then marry one."

    "And so, a lot of scholars look at it sequentially," he says. "Two is optimum, then three, then four, then as a last resort, one!"


    A Shortage of Men

    And while polygamy may seem like a man's paradise, Abdullah says, often an unmarried woman initiates it.

    "Sometimes a woman may be interested in a man, but he's off limits. That's not the case in Islam. Does he have four wives? No? Then he's still available."

    That's how Abdullah met his second wife. A divorcee, she heard Abdullah preach a few sermons and approached his wife to ask if he would be interested in a second wife. Soon she married Abdullah and now the imam cares for two families — with 13 children and another on the way.

    The single women at the mosque say polygamy is a fact of life. But it's not their first choice.

    "Every woman has a preference to be the sole wife," says Aliya, echoing the sentiments of the others. Aliya is a 28-year-old single woman who is finishing up a master's degree. She says that South Philadelphia in the 21st century is a little like Arabia in the 7th century. There is a dearth of men to marry.

    "We're dealing with brothers who are incarcerated — that is, unavailable," she says. "And then unfortunately, you have the AIDS and HIV crisis, where HIV has struck the African-American community disproportionately to others. So when you look at it that way, there is a shortage."

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    I am just going to depict the converse demographic.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1496589.shtml

    With more than a billion people, China has too many men. According to the latest census, an average of 120 boys are born for every 100 girls, the greatest imbalance in the world.

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    http://nitawriter.wordpress.com/2006...te-of-affairs/

    In India today the men to women ratio is rapidly declining.

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    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/W...ow/2311071.cms

    Sex ratios in the neighbourhood of 800 for Haryana and Punjab imply that there are only four women available for every five men. Put simply, this means that one of every five men will not have a local girl to marry. In China and South Korea, two other countries with a low sex ratio, the shortage of marriageable women is resulting in extreme measures to obtain girls.

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    http://www.xist.org/earth/pop_gender.aspx

    In 69 countries the male population is greater than that of women.
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    Most of those instances are because of historical, religious, cultural and/or governmental policies favoring male children over female children. The number 69 does not take into account the ratio of marriageable men and women. If you take into consideration the number of non-family members, incarceration, the effects of civil strife and limit the range to actual marriageable ages (20 to 40 for instance), I imagine that the statistics would tell a different story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lumumba_s View Post
    Most of those instances are because of historical, religious, cultural and/or governmental policies favoring male children over female children. The number 69 does not take into account the ratio of marriageable men and women. If you take into consideration the number of non-family members, incarceration, the effects of civil strife and limit the range to actual marriageable ages (20 to 40 for instance), I imagine that the statistics would tell a different story.
    people who become partisan do not like to factor in the necessary information.

    this is outside of the fact that in some places, your only alotted 2 children. Had the allowance been what you wanted to have, then the entire schope of that tirade would have been drastically different
    Islamic Thought In the Modern Era of the Islamic Awakening: Dissemination of Islamic research and studies
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    “The bonds of Islam will be broken one by one. Every time a bond is undone, the people will cling to the bond that follows. The first of these bonds is rulership (khilaafa) and the last is the prayer (salah).” Reported by Ahmad and Tabarani. Al-Hakim stated that the chain is authentic.

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    Why is polygamy about populations?

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    Because it's proponents argue that polygyny is the solution to problems supposedly presented by 'surplus women' in areas where there is a skewed gender ratio.

    You've seen them, those women, mournfully plodding through their meaningless, manless lives, leaving a wake of murder and mayhem behind them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Why is polygamy about populations?
    it was not until junaid made it so
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    “The bonds of Islam will be broken one by one. Every time a bond is undone, the people will cling to the bond that follows. The first of these bonds is rulership (khilaafa) and the last is the prayer (salah).” Reported by Ahmad and Tabarani. Al-Hakim stated that the chain is authentic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muhtadiyah
    You've seen them, those women, mournfully plodding through their meaningless, manless lives, leaving a wake of murder and mayhem behind them...
    1.4 billion people live under the poverty line - 1.25 USD per day. 20000 Africans die needlessly everyday due to AIDS, malaria and TB. 1.02 billion people do not have enough to eat. 3/4s of this are rural poor farmers who will also bear the brunt of global warming.

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    Please direct Vinod in their direction...where's that laughing smiley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muhtadiyah View Post

    You've seen them, those women, mournfully plodding through their meaningless, manless lives, leaving a wake of murder and mayhem behind them...
    you forgot zina
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    “The bonds of Islam will be broken one by one. Every time a bond is undone, the people will cling to the bond that follows. The first of these bonds is rulership (khilaafa) and the last is the prayer (salah).” Reported by Ahmad and Tabarani. Al-Hakim stated that the chain is authentic.

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    If they're man-less they really can't do zina (fornication).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Please direct Vinod in their direction...
    Yes, I'm sure he'll help them. I can see it now...

    *A spandex-clad Vinod leaps out of a phonebooth, a giant 'P' emblazoned on his chest. It's a bird, it's a plane, no ... it's Polygamy Man!*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    If they're man-less they really can't do zina (fornication).
    I was going to say something like that. If you've got single men around with whom women are (apparently) willing to sleep, there goes your argument about skewed gender ratios.
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    If it's spandex I would have to call it a bird...without spandex he might slip by and get the title Polygamy Man. Those poor women won't know what hit them.

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    But, but... I thought superheroes always wear tights. Can you be a superhero in an lungi?
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