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    Facinating.

    How does an Islamic astronaut face Mecca in orbit?

    Decisions by a conference of Muslim leaders and scientists will help a Malaysian doctor stay observant in outer space.

    Allah is watching – even in outer space. And that poses a problem for a devout Muslim astronaut who is scheduled to fly to the International Space Station (ISS) aboard a Russian rocket this week.

    Imagine trying to pray five times a day in zero gravity while having to face an ever-shifting Mecca hundreds of miles below. How do you ritually wash yourself without water? And, now that it's Ramadan, how do you fast from sunrise to sunset when you see a sunrise and a sunset every 90 minutes? Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor, a Malaysian astronaut, must decide before the Oct. 10 launch.

    "I am Islamic," Sheikh Shukor told a press conference in Moscow, according to the Associated Press, "but my main priority is more of conducting experiments."

    The young orthopedic surgeon is not the first Muslim to fly into space. In 1985, Sultan bin Salman bin Abdulaziz al-Saud, a Saudi Arabian prince, flew aboard the shuttle Discovery. Last September, Iranian-American telecommunications entrepreneur Anousheh Ansari paid the Russians an undisclosed sum (reportedly $20 million) to visit the ISS as a "space tourist." But up to now, there have been no guidelines for Muslim religious practice in space.

    And so the Malaysian National Space Agency (MNSA) and its Department of Islamic Development held a two-day conference in April last year. They invited 150 scholars, scientists, and astronauts to discuss "Islam and Life in Space." The result is a recently published booklet of guidelines for the faithful Muslim astronaut.

    Five times a day (before sunrise, at midday, in late afternoon, after sunset, and at night), earth-bound muezzins call Muslims to prayer. A spaceship traveling 17,400 miles per hour orbits the earth 16 times in a day. Does that mean praying 80 times in 24 hours?

    The guidelines are much more reasonable: Daily prayer in space is not linked to sunrises and sunsets, but to a 24-hour cycle based on the "home" time zone of Baikonur, the Russian-leased launch site in Kazakhstan. Five meditations every 24 hours will suffice.

    If interrupting work to pray is not possible, the astronaut may practice a shorter version of the prayer or combine midday and afternoon prayer times, or the evening and night ones.

    The next problem: Where is Mecca?

    Muslims on Earth face Mecca, in central Saudi Arabia, when they pray. The MNSA suggests that the astronaut pray toward Mecca as much as possible, or at the Earth in general. But if it becomes necessary, the astronaut may simply face any direction.

    The attitude while at prayer is also an issue. In zero gravity, the sequence of the praying postures – standing, bowing, kneeling, and prostrating oneself – is difficult at best. Malaysian Islamic authorities say the astronaut should stand, preferably. If he can't stand, he should sit. If he can't sit, he should lie down. And if he can't do any of those, he's allowed to symbolically indicate the postures "with his eyelids" or to simply imagine them, according to the MNSA booklet.

    Before worship, a Muslim must perform ritual washing – cleaning face, hands, arms, feet, and hair. The problem: Water on the ISS is so precious that even sweat and urine are recycled. And so the Muslim astronaut is permitted "dry ablution." In desert areas on earth, Muslims use dirt and sand to clean the hands. The astronaut will strike his palms on a wall or mirror – though this is not likely to raise any dust.

    Then there's diet. Pork and alcohol are forbidden. Animals to be consumed for food must be slaughtered in a particular way. All food must be halal (allowed by Islamic law). But how can the astronaut know if the food aboard the ISS is halal? If he has any doubts, says the MNSA booklet, he should eat just enough to ward off hunger.

    Meals raise another complication. Ramadan – the holy month during which Muslims abstain from all earthly indulgences (including eating) during daylight hours – doesn't end until Oct. 13.

    Shukor said he hopes to be able to fast in space. The decision will be his. If he does fast, the 16-times-every-24-hours problem will be solved in the same way as the prayer question. And if he chooses not to fast in space? That's OK. But he will be required to make up for Ramadan when – after 11 days in space – he's back on Earth.


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    Wanting one doesn't mean that one is possible. The more you define what are the fundamentals of "religion", the further you move away from understanding what it is. Religion is a mental state, and as with a lot of things, describing how that mental state is acheived does not in any way tell you what that mental state actually feels like.

    As an example, what is water? And I don't mean the definition "it's H2O".

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    Facinating.

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    It is facinating because it shows that religious acts are contingent on the prevailing circumstances and therefore more flexible than some 'fundies' think.

    I have also often wondered how Muslims would practice their faith on a permanent base on the Moon or Mars. Normal praxis would have to be discarded and then modified - even for something so central and important as prayer.

    Presumerably when it comes to space-travel Allah (swt) is happy to concede to the human reasoning of Islamic scholars and allow their decisions to be (somewhat) binding.
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    Wanting one doesn't mean that one is possible. The more you define what are the fundamentals of "religion", the further you move away from understanding what it is. Religion is a mental state, and as with a lot of things, describing how that mental state is acheived does not in any way tell you what that mental state actually feels like.

    As an example, what is water? And I don't mean the definition "it's H2O".

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    You seem elated with the article that there is a situation now in the advanced scientific world that is outside the grasp of Islam
    even for something so central and important as prayer.
    Sorry, you are wrong!!

    If you or anyone else is "fascinated" by this, then its the sheer lack of knowledge of Islam

    1. To pray 5 times in 24 hours and not "80 times in 24 hours" and to fast once in 24 hours is evident from the Hadeeth when people enquire from the prophet of the last days (time of dajjal's advent) when a day will be as long as a year and a like a month and so on. Whether you see it literal or metaphorical, the people did enquire about how people fast and pray at that time and the prophet told to gauge and estimate like a normal day and perform the duties. That is what is applied here.
    2. Halal issue is simple. The prophet has informed that one can consume non-halal food under the doctrine of necessity. It can also be related from the Quran as well. (Indian brahmans and jews have a more strict diet than Muslims and they travel more to space, no one seems to notice that!)
    3. Even in normal earth travel, if the direction of makkah is not determinable, or changing, one can pray in any convenient direction. Not sure why this sudden hoohaa about direction of Mecca as this a very common existing practice of muslims. Likewise it is for joining 2 prayers during travel
    4. Dry ablution in the time of water scarcity was taught by the prophet.
    5. Praying standing, sitting, or lying down or by actions is directly related in the hadeeth. Applied commonly to the sick and disabled.

    This seeming problems and "flexing" of religion is only 'fascinaing' to those who dont know Islam. So, with every bit of the directive taken in line with the commandment of Allah and way of the sunnah, a statement like
    Allah (swt) is happy to concede to the human reasoning of Islamic scholars and allow their decisions to be (somewhat) binding
    even if not taken to be provocative and offensive, will definitely be considered one of little knowledge.
    Everytime I go on longhaul flights and perform my prayer in my seat, almost always the one next to me commends my commitment to follow my religion. Even though there are people like the author of the article who make a mockery of a muslim's commitment and there are aethist thinking that all this is vain to human existence, there are lots of people who will see the dedication of Muslims to be obedient slaves and fulfil their duty to their lord even under extreme circumstances such as space travel. Maybe one muslim goes for every 100 christian going to space, yet the muslim's 'problem' is only published which goes to tell their unparalleled submission and dedication.

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