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    Default A little help for the lost...

    I come here open-minded and with an open heart in hope that somebody could answer a question that has been bugging me.

    I am not a Muslim. In fact i would never have looked into this if i did not have an over-whelming urge to find out the answer to this.
    I have just listened to the purpose of life by Khalid Yaseen and it has spoken to me like nothing before, it has made me question what i know and i beleive everything he says, its all so true it makes the most sense and i would love to adjust right now... but i have found myself lost in a sea of confusion.

    My question is... I am gay, now i dont know Islams take of gay people but as far as i understand it it isnt a nice one. If i could change that about me i would... but i dont think i can. How can I change the way God has made me?

    Please help me, i am very lost.


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    h1kki,

    Welcome to the forum. I hope you enjoy your stay here. The question you posed is indeed a tough one. To be clear Islam in no way condones homosexuality or lesbianism. It is considered very sinful. The people of Lut(Soddom and Gommorra) were destroyed primarily because their men layed with other men rather than their wives (although they also committed other sins such as highway robbery and murder). The following verse is from the Qur'an when the Prophet Lot (who was sent by God to correct the behaviour of the people of Lut) is addressing his people:

    "Do you lust after males, commit robbery on the highways and commit evil
    deeds even in your assemblies?" His people had no answer except to
    say: "Bring us the scourge of Allah if you are truthful.""
    (al Quran surah 29- Al Ankabut, verse 29)

    This verse makes it clear that homosexuality is wrong. Having said this I would like to give you some advice. First of all, don't despair, God has given us all hardships that we must deal with. Many of us are born with sinful inclinations, but we must avoid falling into those sins. It may be that God created you gay because he wanted to test your devotion to him. Whenever you feel your feelings for men are too strong and begin to despair I recommend you remember the following verses.

    "Allah says: "O My servants who have transgressed against their souls, do
    not despair of Allah's mercy, for Allah forgives all sins. It is He Who is the
    Forgiving, the Merciful."
    (Al Qur'an surah 39- Azzumar, verse 53)

    You must also remember that when one becomes a Muslim God wipes away all his former sins, so if it is sins that you have committed in the past that you are worried about, you need not worry. May Allah(swt) guide to to the straight path, Ameen.

    Salaam(peace)
    Sharaa



    Edited by - sharaa on 03/03/2004 04:31:44

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    h1kki,

    PS. You say that you would change if you could, but you don't think you can. I don't think God asks you to change your feelings (i.e.- who you are attracted to), He simply asks you not to act on these feelings if the act would be sinful. All Muslims, straight or gay must control their sexual feelings so that the only outlet for them is with a spouse of the opposite sex.

    Salaam,
    Sharaa



    Edited by - sharaa on 03/03/2004 18:56:12

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    SALAM h1kki
    May GOD guide you to that which pleases HIM.
    I would just like to add that you are being addicted to an unnatural and sinful act of having sexual pleasure. Just like any other sin satan had made it pleasurable and for you and make you to believe that you are helpless in abandoning this and thats how you are made. But this in fact is not the case. Just like a smoker or an alcoholic needs will power to get over his/her addiction, same is the case with you and others like you. You are a perfect human being that has just been trapped by satan and all you need is your will power to get out of it.


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    During the course of reflection in my lifetime, several reflections on the status of homo-sexuality have entered my thought process, of which one of most recent I would like to share.

    My reflections are mirrored by the Quran & Sunnah with an open heart and mind, however limited my knowledge of them may be.

    "Nature" or "Nurture" a common dilemma, The latest publicised belief that has come to my witness, is that "Nature" is the majority school of thought.

    Every one is born with purpose,("Nature") and that this purpose can change during the course of ones lifetime,("Nurture").

    From my view we are all born in the garment of God-consciousness and that we decide or are pursuaded in our decision for a change of clothing. This is an action of free will, if it had been arbitrary predestination we would not have been aware of our garments and hence the choice of what to wear.

    "How can I change the way God has made me?"




    Hasan Demirkol

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    Assalam-o-Alaikum

    From my view we are all born in the garment of God-consciousness and that we decide or are pursuaded in our decision for a change of clothing. This is an action of free will, if it had been arbitrary predestination we would not have been aware of our garments and hence the choice of what to wear.

    Good Thought, Hasan. Masha'Allah.

    h1kki, you write:

    If i could change that about me i would... but i dont think i can. How can I change the way God has made me?

    What makes you think that you can't change? First of All, ask yourself if you hate being a gay. If you hate being one, then ask Allah to guide you so that you can leave the course with ease. If you don't hate then ask Allah to make you hate being a gay. Look and ponder upon His divine message i.e. Quran. Seek how He actually wants you to be rather then seeking refuge into 'how you think He has made you'. May Allah guide you and all of us.

    wassalam
    -Aasem


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