Page 5 of 5 FirstFirst 12345
Results 61 to 63 of 63

Thread: Any Patient Person Willing to Explain Some Things?

  1. #61
    Veteran Member MF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    4,024

    Default

    The fact that the child is also human gives me no moral obligation. Why should it? If I have a moral obligation to help others because they are of my species, do I have the moral right to expect help from strangers? If the obligation is based solely on our mutual humanity, must I help Nazis and KKK members when they need help? Must I help those who seek to destroy me?
    I cant remember wich battle it was exactly but this happened in reality, UK boats were trying to destroy the biggest German war U-boat.. the battle is a long story but eventually the german U-boat lost stearing control and it was doomed to be destroyed. It had tried to destroy the UK boats before but now the U-boat sank and there were about 900 german soldiers in the water. The UK boats tried to rescue them and take them as hostage but they got an emergency call to retreive and they could only rescue 100 germans. The UK soldiers still have nightmares of the germans they had to leave behind in the water to die, and these people were not even religious.

    You must not help them, but I think a part of moral means placing yourself in the others position, imagine how you would feel if you were in theirs place.. if you have the ability to feel that, you would rescue them, you also know that once you rescued them they are not in the position to kill you.



    Edited by - Martine on 02/28/2004 16:15:18

  2. #62
    Veteran Member MF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    4,024

    Default

    If morality is not based on rational self-interest, what is it based on? A subjective feeling of right and wrong- a conscience?
    I think moral is based on a subjective feeling of how would it feel if what I do is done to me and the other way around.

    Just by the sight of someone beeing in pain I feel the same, atleast thats what I have, and I would want to help.. also I dont want to hurt others because I dont want to be hurt myself.

    Sometimes you cant avoid to hurt others (mentally) because you have to be honest with yourself, for example I hurted my ex by breaking up the relation, but it would be lying to myself to stay with him because I didnt love him no longer, in that case you come first wich may look selfish, first be true and honest to yourself because you cant be for others if you are not to yourself.

    If we take a look at homosexuality, I dont know if its immoral however I do know the anus was not ment for what homo's use it for. The muscle around the anus would need to be chirurgish corrected because it would loose its flexibility in time (no joke!). But this doesnt just affect homo's, this affects anyone doing anal sex. But I'm not really bothered by it if they dont bother me with it, its their choise.


    Edited by - Martine on 02/28/2004 17:02:39

  3. #63
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    2,641

    Default


    "I'm agnostic (rationalist, former-Objectivist, Protestant before that)and curious about Islam."

    Straight to "Maurice Bucaille" do not stop and lose a turn!

    Hasan Demirkol

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •