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Thread: There is NO ritual prayer called salat....

  1. #91
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    You're right.
    Many thing are not mention in Qur'an.There are two kind of Qur'an, Qur'an as a book and living Qur'an.If you have faith in book you're called ahlul kitab.Living Qur'an are Muhammad, Imam Ali and their successors until now.
    Islam is a licence belong to Muhammad and his successors,without asking them you act like a thieve
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    Salaamun alaikum

    For those who believe that a ritual prayer exists and is supported by Al-Qur-an, then would you please answer the following questions, thanks?

    1. the name and time of the ritual prayers?

    2. what is commanded to be said in each position in the raka?

    3. how long we are to remain in each position in the raka?

    4. and how many rakas we are commanded to do per ritual prayer 1,2,3,4,5, what?

    5. where in the Qur-an does it mention that Al-Fatiha is be recited in each so-called raka?

    6. where is the term wudu mentioned in the Qur-an?

    7. where is a raka defined in the Qur-an?

    If you are rightly guided as you say you are, then all you have to do answer the above easy questions.

    The word “Sol-laa” (Commitment/obligation) or any of the derivatives from the same root word is NEVER used to refer to the act of “Worship” or performing of a set of body movements. They are at all times referred to upholding or observing the commitments or obligations. The root word for “Sol-laa” is Sod Lam or S L. This root word appears in the Quran twice in 75:31 and 96:10. They were written in short sentences “Falla sod-daqo walaa Sol-laa” and “A’bdan izaa Sol-laa” respectively. The translators say the word Sol-laa in both verses refers to “Ritual Prayers”. They do not.

    Sol-laa is NOT a ritual prayer to God. Sol-laa is also not any kind of communication to God. Sol-laa is also not any kind of links or ties or bonds or obligations performed specifically between a human being to God. Sol-laa is the commitment, the covenants, the obligations, the duties which humans must uphold among each other. The sol-laa is the whole of God’s commandments which we find in the Quran telling us how to observe the commitments, the obligations and relationships and bonds between humans and in our daily routines. We should observe our commitments or responsibilities in our promises, our dealings with others, our relationships with the people, our family, our parents our children and in all our personal deeds. All our conduct must be observed with God consciousness all the time.----AIDID SAFAR

    http://www.free-minds.org/Arab_Conspiracy.html




    Are you saying the Salat was not traditionally used in Islam?
    Please explain.


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    Nick,

    I wouldn't waste my time with that stuff if I were you. The guy has been refuted over and over again. Not to mention that he can't even speak, read or write Arabic but changes the meanings of words at his convenience.


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