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  • women to swap their burqas for headscarves while driving

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  • woman should not drive at all

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  • I can see perfect when completely shrouded in an all-encompassing blue burqa while driving.

    2 20.00%
  • It’s the right of a woman to drive

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    Default can you drive with a burqa?

    I'm curious for what people vote
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    Default Re: can you drive with a burqa?

    Peace MF!

    it's a good question, but what's with the choices? no offense but like can ya really compare between the choices?
    i have to say where i live there are often women, who drive pretty good whilst wearing the full nikaab (the veil). i think it's should be their choice, mind u most women are pretty good at judging if they are/aren't putting ppl in danger whilst driving, it's not like their eyes are covered too.

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    It should be forbidden to drive with a burqa. For example, there are speed trappers where photos of speeding people are taken and in these photos face MUST be seen for police to be able to punish people for things like speeding.
    Another reason is that policemen MUST see drivers' face. I have heard that muslim women often disagree to show their faces to policemen. It is UNLAWFUL to hide your face from officers.

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    Default Re: can you drive with a burqa?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kleiderscope Tara
    Peace MF!

    it's a good question, but what's with the choices? no offense but like can ya really compare between the choices?
    yeah, option D doesnt really answer the question right lol, but its an escape for if you dont know to pick A or C

    Quote Originally Posted by Kleiderscope Tara
    i have to say where i live there are often women, who drive pretty good whilst wearing the full nikaab (the veil).
    A Nikaab is different from a burqa right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kleiderscope Tara
    i think it's should be their choice
    I agree, and woman should be free to take off their burqa for driving in Saudi also, or wear a veil instead... or not! but alteast be free to do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kleiderscope Tara
    mind u most women are pretty good at judging if they are/aren't putting ppl in danger whilst driving, it's not like their eyes are covered too.
    If woman have experience with driving then yes, they can judge it, but theres not much to judge of your not allowed to take off the burqa.. so the first question is, does the burqa block vision when driving?, a burqa does cover the eyes and a nikaab does not (thats the difference)

    Anyways, I posted this poll because of the discussion here: http://forums.understanding-islam.or...ead.php?t=2897 and I
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    Default Re: can you drive with a burqa?

    this question has no basic ground ,you should ask those who wear it not a common person from the street but if you ask (any female) wether can or can't see with burqa while driving then yes this is the question
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    peace to all!

    MF:
    yea i think i got a little confused, thinkin the burqa was meant nikaab sometimes ppl call the nikaab burqa - but i think i know now what ya meant!

    the mesh that women get to see through is pretty tough, especially if the lattice squares are not as big as they used to make them. but again, this really boils down to culture and religion. two separate entities that people bring together for whatever reason seems fitting to them.
    it's a shame when women are forced into situations i just hope muslims can teach and educate people the rights and values of women. mind you muslims can keep saying this over and over again but the question boils will it change? (inshaalah one can pray)

    either way women should have the right to choose their own paths, whether muslim, non-muslim etc either way God will decide their fate not no person.
    i'mm wondering if there even are women who drive with a burqa? a nikaab i'd understand but a burqa?
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    Salam everyone.

    In Bahrain the women are not to wear the nicab (eyes out as my daughters say) and drive...so they get around this by wraping their hijab over their mouths (instead of under the chin) and down to their eyebrows...then they add big dark sunglasses.

    Problem solved...not wearing nicab, but basicly fully veiled. :drunk:

    Just thought I'd throw that in the mix.

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    Default Re: can you drive with a burqa?

    i dont see any problem
    woman can drive
    but that doesnt me that they should be out 24 hours a day
    7 days a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mohammed4762
    i dont see any problem
    woman can drive
    but that doesnt me that they should be out 24 hours a day
    7 days a week
    Why should they not be out whenever they so desire?

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    Peace Othaellen,

    Welcome to the forum. I hope you'll have a pleasant stay with us.

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    Default Re: can you drive with a burqa?

    Since when is driving a right for anyone?
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    Default Re: can you drive with a burqa?

    Quote Originally Posted by othaellen
    Why should they not be out whenever they so desire?
    For the same reason men should not be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lumumba_s
    Since when is driving a right for anyone?
    Never, really. The concept of "rights" is relative to the situation. You have basic rights, which are universal, then you have these types of situation dependant rights. For example, what about your "right" to an education?

    Really, driving is NEVER a right for anyone. Rights = Needs, driving is NOT a basic need, therefore not being a basic right. But if men are allowed to drive, then women should be allowed to drive as long as their sexuality does not limit it (take no offense, but I personally think women shouldn't even be allowed near scissors at *that time* of the month, bad things occur, ya know!).

    I don't think that women under any circumstances should be allowed to drive with a mesh of cloth covering their eyes. There are three key requirements to driving. Eyesight, is one. A blind person really shouldn't be driving. Second, is soundness of mind, and level of development of senses and co-ordination. Finally, you must have a sound body condition.

    Obscuring the eyesight, you've just violated a primary requirement of driving. You might say, "what happens in an emergency?". The ideal of an "emergency" is open to debate. With all due respect, I really don't think putting the definition of "emergency" in the person driving (man OR woman), is suitable. Obviously, in a real emergency it would be rather hard to run up and jump into a burqa and into a car. This poses a risk too.

    However. The niqaab is a completely different thing. There is no question that a woman cannot be able to drive in the niqaabb. It doesn't obscure anything, so she really isn't already posing a risk to others before taking into account her state.

    In any case, the veil is debateable in the first place. My opinion is that burqa, or anything covering eyes, NO. Would you murder a few kids, mothers, fathers, and general average Joes/Janes just becasue of YOUR "right" to drive in a burqa? That is ridiculous.

    My opinion.

    Also. Spew out that rubbish about women's rights. It will do nothing to change my opinion here. If there is a male available, and a woman available, the male person should drive. I am NOT trusting someone who cannot hold a pair of scissors without aiming the sharp side at my eyes (*that time of the month*), behind a steering wheel going at 60MPH. No, way. Men, are too held back by their inherent "mega skillz" at driving to even think about swerving towards a cliff, to make a point.

    My humble opinion.

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    Default Re: can you drive with a burqa?

    I don't even think it is safe for women to drive alone period in those few places where the burqa is the cultural dress. And if they could, I do not think that they would anyway. If a man is going to lust after a woman in hijab in a car, driving 35 miles an hour down a busy street, I think you should just go ahead and flog him to get it out of the way.
    Quote Originally Posted by SolidThinking
    No, way. Men, are too held back by their inherent "mega skillz" at driving to even think about swerving towards a cliff, to make a point.
    I don't know . . . I must admit that the thought has crossed my mind for nothing other than the adrenaline factor.

    And to any women who may be reading (as if), he made the scissors comment not me . . . :bounce:
    Last edited by lumumba_s; 25th April 2006 at 16:10.
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    ^^ I agree. I don't understand the last two poll options, they are hilarious, if anything!

    I have never been in a burqa (How to get out of THAT one? ), but I bet (no, not rly) that a load of meshes in front of you will limit your eyesight.

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