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    Jude, your comment got me thinking....a gracious God that you speak of versus, let's say: a stricter God, as is in Islam...I read this and struggled with the idea for a couple days. Do I like the idea of a God that I know forgives me no matter what, compared to feeling a fear to do the right thing because there is an eternal consequence? I've come to my own personal truth and the thing is: it's not about me or you or what makes us feel cozy inside, it's about human beings and society as a whole. Rules and laws are in place because, although we are free to do mostly as we please, we can only go so far with our freedoms until we start interfering with others freedoms. People can't do whatever they want just because they want and it makes them happy in the moment. God knows all things and the reasons why. And if He placed certain laws and rules in place its for a reason, a good reason...society as a whole has a very "me-me" mind set - "I can do what I want because I want to" and noone can tell them what's right or wrong not even God. That's sad. It's not so bad to fear consequences for your actions. Anyways, God knows what's in your heart no matter what you do or what you preach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jezubela View Post
    Jude, your comment got me thinking....a gracious God that you speak of versus, let's say: a stricter God, as is in Islam...I read this and struggled with the idea for a couple days. Do I like the idea of a God that I know forgives me no matter what, compared to feeling a fear to do the right thing because there is an eternal consequence? I've come to my own personal truth and the thing is: it's not about me or you or what makes us feel cozy inside, it's about human beings and society as a whole. Rules and laws are in place because, although we are free to do mostly as we please, we can only go so far with our freedoms until we start interfering with others freedoms. People can't do whatever they want just because they want and it makes them happy in the moment. God knows all things and the reasons why. And if He placed certain laws and rules in place its for a reason, a good reason...society as a whole has a very "me-me" mind set - "I can do what I want because I want to" and noone can tell them what's right or wrong not even God. That's sad. It's not so bad to fear consequences for your actions. Anyways, God knows what's in your heart no matter what you do or what you preach.
    you go girl
    amen to that

    that is essentially the rut that people like jude and others can't seem to wiggle themselves out of. The worship of their own desires and wishful thinking under the guise of "freedom". I've reached the conclusion that the typical advocacy of the "Cozzy, warm and fuzzy loving God" is a typical syndrome of these people to legitimize their crimes towards humanity or to themselves and to the social fabric.

    We believe that what goes around, comes around. And that each soul will reap what it sows and that no one will answer up for what you were made accountable of.
    Islamic Thought In the Modern Era of the Islamic Awakening: Dissemination of Islamic research and studies
    al-Mustaqeem Publications
    “The bonds of Islam will be broken one by one. Every time a bond is undone, the people will cling to the bond that follows. The first of these bonds is rulership (khilaafa) and the last is the prayer (salah).” Reported by Ahmad and Tabarani. Al-Hakim stated that the chain is authentic.

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