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    Default Re: How to dispose of pseudo Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by shaad_lko View Post
    No, the Qur'an is a book with Arabic textg representing the words of the God of the Universe and all that exists. Muslims dont believe that God is exclusive to them anyway..
    I stand corrected, thank you for that.

    Secondly, it is your assumption that a group of Salafis (sic) have arbitrarily replaced the text - that would be true in case they played around with the Arabic, it is incorrect to call a translation as a pseudo-Qur'an. Usually, a translator follows a methodology.
    1. the original says: x
    2. translations say: x
    3. this book says: y

    Is it a false assumption or conclusion to say the text was replaced by something different?

    1. the Koran "is a book with Arabic textg representing the words of the God of the Universe and all that exists."
    2. this book does not contain any Arabic text inside
    3. it says "Qur'an" on the outside

    My conclusion: if what is claimed outside is not found inside, it is it called pseudo.
    pseudo [ˈsjuːdəʊ]
    adj
    not genuine; pretended


    Is this a mistake?

    Anyhow, my point was understanding what you guys here thought what the definition of such a book is and how you evaluated the consequences.

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    Default Re: How to dispose of pseudo Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by StopS View Post
    1. the original says: x
    2. translations say: x
    3. this book says: y
    yes, it will be a pseudo if this is the case, but you have not provided any example from the book here so we are not really in a position to comment on that.
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    Default Re: How to dispose of pseudo Koran

    Quote Originally Posted by shaad_lko View Post
    yes, it will be a pseudo if this is the case, but you have not provided any example from the book here so we are not really in a position to comment on that.

    I thought I did. In my initial post I gave an example for this and why I consider the German one an interpretation and not a translation:

    Example: in 13:13 it does not mention thunder, but lightning.

    But from what I understand this point is moot anyway.

    You defined the Koran as

    the Qur'an is a book with Arabic textg representing the words of the God of the Universe

    This book is not in Arabic, so the "Title" Qur'an is wrong, which makes it pseudo anyway, regardless of whether you will try to draw me into a lengthy discussion about individual words.

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