What constitute the act of Fasaad in the Quran?

[johan]

Bismillah Arra7maan Arra7eem,

I would like brothers and sister to join me in the search for the meaning of this term Fasaad (فساد).
Please provide the verse that proves it.

Thank you and Salam

[DocW]

إِنَّمَا جَزَاءُ الَّذِينَ يُحَارِبُونَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيَسْعَوْنَ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَسَادًا أَنْ يُقَتَّلُوا أَوْ يُصَلَّبُوا أَوْ تُقَطَّعَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَأَرْجُلُهُمْ مِنْ خِلَافٍ أَوْ يُنفَوْا مِنْ الْأَرْضِ ذَلِكَ لَهُمْ خِزْيٌ فِي الدُّنيَا وَلَهُمْ فِي الْآخِرَةِ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ إِلَّا الَّذِينَ تَابُوا مِنْ قَبْلِ أَنْ تَقْدِرُوا عَلَيْهِمْ فَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحِيمٌ (٥ :٣٣-٤)

The punishments of those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and strive to spread disorder in the land are to execute them in an exemplary way or to crucify them or to amputate their hands and feet from opposite sides or to banish them from the land. Such is their disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom save those who repent before you overpower them; you should know that Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Ever Merciful. (5:33-4)

[DocW]

مَنْ قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا (٣٢:٥)

He who killed a human being without the latter being guilty of killing another or of spreading disorder in the land should be looked upon as if he killed all of mankind. (5:32)

[johan]

إِنَّمَا جَزَاءُ الَّذِينَ يُحَارِبُونَ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيَسْعَوْنَ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَسَادًا أَنْ يُقَتَّلُوا أَوْ يُصَلَّبُوا أَوْ تُقَطَّعَ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَأَرْجُلُهُمْ مِنْ خِلَافٍ أَوْ يُنفَوْا مِنْ الْأَرْضِ ذَلِكَ لَهُمْ خِزْيٌ فِي الدُّنيَا وَلَهُمْ فِي الْآخِرَةِ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ إِلَّا الَّذِينَ تَابُوا مِنْ قَبْلِ أَنْ تَقْدِرُوا عَلَيْهِمْ فَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحِيمٌ (٥ :٣٣-٤)

The punishments of those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and strive to spread disorder in the land are to execute them in an exemplary way or to crucify them or to amputate their hands and feet from opposite sides or to banish them from the land. Such is their disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom save those who repent before you overpower them; you should know that Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Ever Merciful. (5:33-4)

مَنْ قَتَلَ نَفْسًا بِغَيْرِ نَفْسٍ أَوْ فَسَادٍ فِي الْأَرْضِ فَكَأَنَّمَا قَتَلَ النَّاسَ جَمِيعًا (٣٢:٥)

He who killed a human being without the latter being guilty of killing another or of spreading disorder in the land should be looked upon as if he killed all of mankind. (5:32)

Thanks bro for the participation, but I don't see the clear cut explanation of fasaad in these 2 verses you quoted.
What I do see is that fasaad is something other than killing, and fasaad is something other than 7arb.

regards,
Johan

[DocW]

Those who break the covenant of Allah after ratifying it, and sever that which Allah ordered to be joined, and (who) make mischief in the earth: Those are they who are the losers. 2:27

[DocW]

are you referring to Jihad without political soverignity?= fassad fil arz

[johan]

Those who break the covenant of Allah after ratifying it, and sever that which Allah ordered to be joined, and (who) make mischief in the earth: Those are they who are the losers. 2:27
are you referring to Jihad without political soverignity?= fassad fil arz

I'm also searching bro for the answer..
but the answer must be able to explain itself, i.e. the verse must be clear about the fasaad, and not only mentions the fasaad..
the verse should explain fasad either by definition or by example, or by analogy..

i'm not sure if political soverignty and jihad has a relationship with fasaad, need a verse to base that..

salam

[johan]

I'm also searching bro for the answer..
but the answer must be able to explain itself, i.e. the verse must be clear about the fasaad, and not only mentions the fasaad..
the verse should explain fasad either by definition or by example, or by analogy..

i'm not sure if political soverignty and jihad has a relationship with fasaad, need a verse to base that..

salam

Ok, I found one hint here:

فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَ*ةِ ۗ وَيَسْأَلُونَكَ عَنِ الْيَتَامَىٰ ۖ قُلْ إِصْلَاحٌ لَّهُمْ خَيْرٌ* ۖ وَإِن تُخَالِطُوهُمْ فَإِخْوَانُكُمْ ۚ وَاللَّـهُ يَعْلَمُ الْمُفْسِدَ مِنَ الْمُصْلِحِ ۚ وَلَوْ شَاءَ اللَّـهُ لَأَعْنَتَكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّـهَ عَزِيزٌ حَكِيمٌ ﴿٢٢٠﴾
[2:220]
To this world and the Hereafter. And they ask you about orphans. Say, "Improvement for them is best. And if you mix your affairs with theirs - they are your brothers. And Allah knows the mufsid (corrupter) from the mu9li7 (amender). And if Allah had willed, He could have put you in difficulty. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.

From this verse we can say that:
- A mufsid is the opposite of a mu9li7 (person who under go Improvement/reconciliation)..

In another verse there is this verse:

[3:63] Sahih International
But if they turn away, then indeed - Allah is Knowing of the mufsideen (corrupters).

This could hint to the essence of fasaad(corruption), but what is it?

وَلَا تَقْعُدُوا بِكُلِّ صِرَ*اطٍ تُوعِدُونَ وَتَصُدُّونَ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّـهِ مَنْ آمَنَ بِهِ وَتَبْغُونَهَا عِوَجًا ۚ وَاذْكُرُ*وا إِذْ كُنتُمْ قَلِيلًا فَكَثَّرَ*كُمْ ۖ وَانظُرُ*وا كَيْفَ كَانَ عَاقِبَةُ الْمُفْسِدِينَ ﴿٨٦﴾
[7:86]
And do not sit on every path, threatening and averting (my assumption is by force or deceit) from the way of Allah those who believe in Him, seeking to make it [seem] deviant. And remember when you were few and He increased you. And see how was the end of the mufsideen (corrupters).

This seems to be the best candidate yet for the definition of fasaad..
Need to be sure of what 9udood constitute..

10:32-40
For that is Allah, your Lord, the Truth. And what can be beyond truth except error? So how are you averted? (32) Thus the word of your Lord has come into effect upon those who defiantly disobeyed - that they will not believe. (33)
Say, "Are there of your 'partners' any who begins creation and then repeats it?" Say, "Allah begins creation and then repeats it, so how are you deluded?" (34) Say, "Are there of your 'partners' any who guides to the truth?" Say, "Allah guides to the truth. So is He who guides to the truth more worthy to be followed or he who guides not unless he is guided? Then what is [wrong] with you - how do you judge?" (35) And most of them follow not except assumption. Indeed, assumption avails not against the truth at all. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of what they do. (36) And it was not [possible] for this Qur'an to be produced by other than Allah, but [it is] a confirmation of what was before it and a detailed explanation of the [former] Scripture, about which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds. (37) Or do they say [about the Prophet], "He invented it?" Say, "Then bring forth a surah like it and call upon [for assistance] whomever you can besides Allah, if you should be truthful." (38) Rather, they have denied that which they encompass not in knowledge and whose interpretation has not yet come to them. Thus did those before them deny. Then observe how was the end of the wrongdoers. (39) And of them are those who believe in it, and of them are those who do not believe in it. And your Lord is most knowing of the mufsideen (corrupters) (40)

It seems that fasaad has a lot to do with the use of terrorism against others with the basis of mixed truth and false hood by intentionally using conflicting interpretation of the aya/verse/signs of Allah SWT as the basis of the actions.

وَجَاوَزْنَا بِبَنِي إِسْرَ*ائِيلَ الْبَحْرَ* فَأَتْبَعَهُمْ فِرْ*عَوْنُ وَجُنُودُهُ بَغْيًا وَعَدْوًا ۖ حَتَّىٰ إِذَا أَدْرَ*كَهُ الْغَرَ*قُ قَالَ آمَنتُ أَنَّهُ لَا إِلَـٰهَ إِلَّا الَّذِي آمَنَتْ بِهِ بَنُو إِسْرَ*ائِيلَ وَأَنَا مِنَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ ﴿٩٠﴾ آلْآنَ وَقَدْ عَصَيْتَ قَبْلُ وَكُنتَ مِنَ الْمُفْسِدِينَ ﴿٩١﴾
And We took the Children of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh and his soldiers pursued them in tyranny and enmity until, when drowning overtook him, he said, "I believe that there is no deity except that in whom the Children of Israel believe, and I am of the Muslims." (90) Now? And you had disobeyed [Him] before and were of the corrupters? (91)

This is an example of fasaad in the form of terrorism by pharaoh.

[27:14] Sahih International
فَلَمَّا جَاءَتْهُمْ آيَاتُنَا مُبْصِرَ*ةً قَالُوا هَـٰذَا سِحْرٌ* مُّبِينٌ ﴿١٣﴾
وَجَحَدُوا بِهَا وَاسْتَيْقَنَتْهَا أَنفُسُهُمْ ظُلْمًا وَعُلُوًّا ۚ فَانظُرْ* كَيْفَ كَانَ عَاقِبَةُ الْمُفْسِدِينَ ﴿١٤﴾
[27:13-14]
But when there came to them Our visible signs, they said, "This is obvious magic."
And they rejected them, while their [inner] selves were convinced thereof, out of injustice and haughtiness. So see how was the end of the mufsideen(corrupters).

Here the rejection of truth(signs of Allah SWT) is considered as a form of fasad(corruption).


Need more features to pin point the definition..

wallahua3lam

[DocW]

Salaam bro

In my humble opinion fassad literally means anarchy. So as I understand fassad is

1. Any act that spreads disorder in land.

2. Any act that wages war against Allah or His prophet, this includes trying to abolish God's religion or Gods rules.

For me this is the definition of fassad fil arz and the rest of the verses give examples of it.

those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and strive to spread disorder in the land

Thus deliberate murder is fassad and so was stopping people from praying God's religion at Baitullah. Both are referred to fassad fil arz.

[johan]

Salaam bro

In my humble opinion fassad literally means anarchy. So as I understand fassad is

1. Any act that spreads disorder in land.

2. Any act that wages war against Allah or His prophet, this includes trying to abolish God's religion or Gods rules.

For me this is the definition of fassad fil arz and the rest of the verses give examples of it.

those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and strive to spread disorder in the land

Thus deliberate murder is fassad and so was stopping people from praying God's religion at Baitullah. Both are referred to fassad fil arz.

Salam bro,
I respect your opinion..
I wish I had time to comment extensively on this..
for now all i can say that i have a hunch that those points are more to the side effects than the definition..

Wallahua3lam..

[Sohail123]

Assalam O Allikum
There is harsh punishment in Islam for those people who fight war against the Allah Almighty And his Messenger Muhammad (S.A.W). The Holy Quraan Says about those people in the following verses.....
[And say [O Muhammad]: 'The truth [has now come] you're your Sustainer: let, then, him or her who wills, believe in it, and let him or her who wills, reject it.] (Al-Kahf 18:29)

[There shall be no coercion in matters of faith.] (Al-Baqarah 2:256)

[And so, [O Prophet,] exhort them; your task is only to exhort. You can not compel them [to believe].] (Al-Ghashiyah 88:21-22)

[Iysay]

The Holy Qur'aan Chapter 18 , Revealed In The Year 618 - 619 A.D. Al Kahf (The Cave ) .
Verses. 27 - 31 , Speaking about ~ No one can Change Allah'a Words ~ Jannat is for those who perfect themselves .

The Holy Qur'aan Chapter 2 , Revealed In The Year 624-626 A.D. Al Baqarah (The Heifer )

Verses . 256 - 260 , Speaking about ~ Don't (Use Force ) to make Enosites accept the ( Peaceful Way Of Life ) .

The Holy Qur'aan Chapter 88 , Revealed In The Year 613 A.D. Ghaashiyah ( The Overwhelming Event ) .

Verses . 21 - 26 , Speaking about ~ Ahmad remind them ~ Muhammad doesn't have the power to compel them ~ He who turns away from the faith will have the greatest pain ~ Their return and the taking of the their Hisaab is to the Heavenly Host .