Islam Is Going To Be Omitted In Bangladesh As State Religion

[RegularAmericanGuy]

First, you are comparing Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan right at the top. Middle east has more countries.
Second, you have actually lived in any of the politically stable countries in the middle east to come to that conclusion?

No I have not. But politically stable doesn't equal free. Our system has it's flaws but I believe it to be the best out there. Are there countries in the Middle East where you feel there is a better system of government that protects it's people's freedoms and provides a high standard of living?

[hyd]

No I have not. But politically stable doesn't equal free. Our system has it's flaws but I believe it to be the best out there. Are there countries in the Middle East where you feel there is a better system of government that protects it's people's freedoms and provides a high standard of living?

I'm in a hurry so I've to keep it short and quick.

Yea but you can't compare with destabilized govt to begin with. Protecting freedom is a relative term something maybe better here and others there, and that what the problem I see with your thinking. You are looking at it in a black and white way, which is not true. In US people are free to live together without marriage, do drugs, drink alcohol which would be difficult here but different strokes for different folks. People who move to gulf countries in the middle east are two types (1) for jobs or/and (2) for more family oriented environment. Gulf countries on average have higher standards of living for their people than US. But that maybe because of oil, except Dubai doesn't have oil (it only accounts for 5% of GDP). Second, reason is these places have better family oriented environment less drugs, crime, alcohol, etc... people who prefer these things will tend to prefer how things are here in Middle East Islamic countries with stable govt and economies, rather than US.

Somebody on my facebook was mourning about her grand daughters death and she was ranting about her son and his wife being stoned during the accident. She wasn't probably a bad mother, she doesn't use weed herself, but society plays a significant influence and some where his son got into weeds and similar stuff. She is in US and she probably doesn't know much about middle east except what she hears in the media (since she haven't been here), but I can see why some people who come here with families, many prefer the family oriented environment here.

Probably my explanation is not clear, but I hope you can see what I'm trying to say. In short, better and worse for complex issues is a relative term and many won't see US system as superior. It is complex data and issues, and it can be argued one way or another from different angle.

[RegularAmericanGuy]

I think I understand your point. Correct me if you are wrong but you are saying that people in the Middle East are happy there and that is why things are the way they are. That is your opinion and you are welcome to it but I would be skeptical of that assertation. I would bet that given the choice and equal exposure to both ways of life an overwhelming majority of the people would prefer the lifestyle in the West. As for Gulf countries on average haveing a higher standard of living that seems like a rediculous statement. Please show your work on that sir.

[hyd]

Correct me if you are wrong but you are saying that people in the Middle East are happy there and that is why things are the way they are.

Yes and no, depending what you are talking about and which country. Middleeast has more than 16 countries.

I would bet that given the choice and equal exposure to both ways of life an overwhelming majority of the people would prefer the lifestyle in the West.

That's why I mentioned people who moved here for the family oriented culture, they had exposure to both lifestyles.

As for Gulf countries on average haveing a higher standard of living that seems like a rediculous statement.

Come to Gulf countries and see for yourself.

But here are few reports:
http://urbanpeek.com/2012/03/09/the-...tries-in-2012/

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147743/hi...rab-world.aspx

[RegularAmericanGuy]

Admittedly I have never been to a Gulf country. This may be an American bias, but I'm not sure that I would. It doesn't seem safe. I would love to go to Isreal and see all the holy sites, go to Egypt and see the pyramids, but it seems like the attitude towards Americans is not a favorable one right now.

[MF]

Admittedly I have never been to a Gulf country. This may be an American bias, but I'm not sure that I would. It doesn't seem safe. I would love to go to Isreal and see all the holy sites, go to Egypt and see the pyramids, but it seems like the attitude towards Americans is not a favorable one right now.

If you have an Israeli stamp in your passport, you may not even enter other gulf countries so better visit that one last.

Ceck out this joke: http://forums.understanding-islam.co...ENT-TO-HIS-DAD
I find it funny.

Although I do agree that when you have never been to a gulf country and have to form your opinion on the media, it may be giving you a wrong view because mostly the media only shows what sells and you don't get to see all.

I think its not fair to use GDP because we all know that in rich gulf countries the wealth is not distributed evenly and Dubai was bailed out from neighbouring Abu Dhabi.

There is a list of the world's happies countries right? perhaps that is a better measurement but even so, its terribly subjective.

[Sohail123]

Assalam o Allikum
yea no doubt number of Islamic parties are going to banned in the Bangladesh but it does not mean that they are going to ban the Islam in Bangladesh. The reason of this Banned is just due to the recent clashes between different sects in the country and the deadly protest and for controlling the law and order situation in the country that why they banned the Islamic party in Bangladesh.