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    Bombs, gunfire rock Nigeria; more than 140 killed

    Islamist sect Boko Haram claims responsibility for latest violence

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46081837...d_news-africa/

    LAGOS, Nigeria — Coordinated attacks claimed by a radical Islamist sect left at least 143 people dead in Nigeria's second-largest city, a hospital official said Saturday.

    The official said Saturday that the figure represented those in a mortuary at Kano's largest hospital, as well as those whose bodies have already been claimed by families for burial.

    The official spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

    The sect known as Boko Haram claimed responsibility for the attacks that started Friday in the city of more than 9 million people.
    The article goes on to identify that many of the dead were being stacked at... wait for it... here it comes....

    Murtala Muhammed Specialist Hospital.

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    besides the fact that Islamism isnt the mainstream interpretation of Islam itself, lets look at a few of the others' records:

    Secular Capitalistic Materialism - Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Afghanistan and Iraq
    Christianity - Crusades, Spanish Inquisition
    Judaism - Palestinian Nakba
    Hinduism - Wiping out all Buddhists from India
    Buddhism - ethnic cleansing in Sri Lanka
    Communism - Mao's Long March, Stalin's deportations
    Nine things the Lord has commanded me: Fear of God in private and in public; Justness, whether in anger or in calmness; Moderation in both poverty and affluence; That I should join hands with those who break away from me; And give to those who deprive me; And forgive those who wrong me; And that my silence should be meditation; And my words remembrance of God; And my vision keen observation.- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaad_lko View Post
    besides the fact that Islamism isnt the mainstream interpretation of Islam itself, lets look at a few of the others' records:

    Secular Capitalistic Materialism - Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Afghanistan and Iraq
    Christianity - Crusades, Spanish Inquisition
    Judaism - Palestinian Nakba
    Hinduism - Wiping out all Buddhists from India
    Buddhism - ethnic cleansing in Sri Lanka
    Communism - Mao's Long March, Stalin's deportations
    Speaking of irony, I found it ironic that you are forced to invent such nonsensical terms as "Secular Capitalistic Materialism" in a flaccid attempt to excuse the worldwide plague of islamism. I'll also note that the Christian Crusades were in response to the islamist Crusades across Europe. So you see, We in the West have been confronting islamist terrorism (AKA islamist ideology), for centuries.

    The phenomenon of Islamic terrorism is a worldwide plague. It is clearly not a function of a small group of individuals, acting in isolation from the greater islamist ummah. What we do know is that Islamic terrorism is financed by various islamist “charities” that are little more than fronts for the financing of Islamic terrorism. We do know that various Islamic governments are complicit in the aiding and abetting of Islamic terrorists. We do know that Islamic terrorist/hate groups find their way into elected office on those rare occasions where islamist nations allow representative voting. Hizzbollah in Lebanon and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt are relevant examples.

    You seem to be a bit fuzzy on the details of Islamic dogma. It is this dogma that is the engine driving Islamic terrorism. As is often the case with these issues, we’re left to question why the two true monotheistic Abrahamic faiths and why other religions don’t produce the legions of mass murderers that rise from the ranks of the ummah’ists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resigned View Post
    Speaking of irony, I found it ironic that you are forced to invent such nonsensical terms as "Secular Capitalistic Materialism" in a flaccid attempt to excuse the worldwide plague of islamism. I'll also note that the Christian Crusades were in response to the islamist Crusades across Europe. So you see, We in the West have been confronting islamist terrorism (AKA islamist ideology), for centuries.

    The phenomenon of Islamic terrorism is a worldwide plague. It is clearly not a function of a small group of individuals, acting in isolation from the greater islamist ummah. What we do know is that Islamic terrorism is financed by various islamist “charities” that are little more than fronts for the financing of Islamic terrorism. We do know that various Islamic governments are complicit in the aiding and abetting of Islamic terrorists. We do know that Islamic terrorist/hate groups find their way into elected office on those rare occasions where islamist nations allow representative voting. Hizzbollah in Lebanon and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt are relevant examples.

    You seem to be a bit fuzzy on the details of Islamic dogma. It is this dogma that is the engine driving Islamic terrorism. As is often the case with these issues, we’re left to question why the two true monotheistic Abrahamic faiths and why other religions don’t produce the legions of mass murderers that rise from the ranks of the ummah’ists.
    Seems as though your nightmares keep scaring the pants off you!

    Get real, dawg!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicStar View Post
    Seems as though your nightmares keep scaring the pants off you!

    Get real, dawg!
    It seems as though you're unable to accept (or refute) islamist history both past and present.

    "Get real, dawg"?
    Oh my. You must be one of those NOI types embracing the "I'm a cauldron of repressed rage", islamism. Do you also walk around with that "tough guy" persona? How cute.

    Try this: "yo homes - we be da angry muzlims".

    Just try and be understanding when people point and laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resigned View Post
    It seems as though you're unable to accept (or refute) islamist history both past and present.

    "Get real, dawg"?
    Oh my. You must be one of those NOI types embracing the "I'm a cauldron of repressed rage", islamism. Do you also walk around with that "tough guy" persona? How cute.
    Shucks.

    Just cuz I used "dawg" doesn't mean I'm a nigga.....such racism! And they talk about PEACE. pftt!

    You boldly talk about "fascist" religions while you don't even seem to have respect for people of different cultures. What do exactly want? The entire earth for yourself? Well, to tell you the truth, that ain't possible...though I can think of alternatives just for ya...the moon maybe or how about Mars? Lots of peaceful empty space there.


    Try this: "yo homes - we be da angry muzlims".

    Just try and be understanding when people point and laugh.
    You could try this: "Yo peeps, we be needin ta know da hol ish bout da izlamists, str8 up, or they'd nuke us" *bites nails*

    I know you wouldn't mind if people point and laugh. Cuz after all, you have the "truth" about what "real" Islam is, right?

    On a serious note, I guess it's a fact that when you have the truth, you don't easily lose hope. (Doesn't look like from your user name, sorry)
    Try it, maybe that'll help you assess yourself. I'm just kidding. But, seriously, how else can I explain it to you?

    Can we just get this straight? (Let's avoid any sorta ad hominem arguments (referring to my other post to, please don't mind), shall we?)

    If you really think that Islam is a threat to peace, then what'd be your solution for it? (I definitely don't agree, but just assuming the impossible) It's a genuine question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicStar View Post
    Shucks.

    Just cuz I used "dawg" doesn't mean I'm a nigga.....such racism! And they talk about PEACE. pftt!

    You boldly talk about "fascist" religions while you don't even seem to have respect for people of different cultures. What do exactly want? The entire earth for yourself? Well, to tell you the truth, that ain't possible...though I can think of alternatives just for ya...the moon maybe or how about Mars? Lots of peaceful empty space there.
    Well, that's cute and while I have respect for different cultures, why should I have respect for a politico-religious ideology that engenders hate for me and non-muslims?

    Say: "Shall I tell you who will receive a worse reward from God? Those whom God has cursed and with who He has been angry, transforming them into apes and swine, and those who serve the devil. Worse is the plight of these, and they have strayed farther from the right path." —Koran 5:59-60

    And when they [the Israelites —ed.] scornfully persisted in their forbidden ways, We said to them: "Turn into detested apes." —Koran 7:166

    Lovely. So... who is it lacking respect?





    You could try this: "Yo peeps, we be needin ta know da hol ish bout da izlamists, str8 up, or they'd nuke us" *bites nails*

    I know you wouldn't mind if people point and laugh. Cuz after all, you have the "truth" about what "real" Islam is, right?
    Correct. I gave you a detailed response to this accusation in my earlier post.

    On a serious note, I guess it's a fact that when you have the truth, you don't easily lose hope. (Doesn't look like from your user name, sorry)
    Try it, maybe that'll help you assess yourself. I'm just kidding. But, seriously, how else can I explain it to you?

    Can we just get this straight? (Let's avoid any sorta ad hominem arguments (referring to my other post to, please don't mind), shall we?)

    If you really think that Islam is a threat to peace, then what'd be your solution for it? (I definitely don't agree, but just assuming the impossible) It's a genuine question.
    That's fine, you've posed a reasonable question.

    First, some background. If we look at the Islamic Middle East currently, what strikes me is just how fiercely resistant the politico-religious ideology actually is to any sort of revision or reform. This is its single most buttressed impediment to compatibility with the rest of the world. If we listen to so many of islam's Sheiks, they tell us in clear and uncompromising terms that islam is held by Muslims to be the only legitimate law for all of mankind, in all places, at all times. By words and actions, Muslims tell us that they are resolutely convinced that their religion came to them in perfect and uncreated form from God so that it will be in all places, for all times. That is the foundation of its unyielding intolerance and contempt (that's not too strong a word, BTW), for all other worldviews.

    Christianity and Judaism, as we know, met with reform and enlightenment. In short, they grew up and became a positive force for civilization and progress worldwide. In fact, they were instrumental in shaping social climate which fostered the freedoms, science, and prosperity of Western civilization. I cringe at the notion of Christianity never having undergone a reformation. Witch hunts, burning at the stake, inquisitions,... that would be awful. Today there are many different sects and subdivisions of Christianity, and with a nod to the founding vision of Martin Luther during the sixteenth century, those incarnations of the Christian faith manage to avoid warfare with each other. In fact, they have managed to coexist and flourish within the embrace of secular governance. That flexibility is even alluded to in the Gospels: "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's." —Matthew 22:21.

    Western civilization, within secular governments, understands that keeping religion and state separate does not need to be a problem, which is beneficial for the religionists and the non-religionists they live among. There is no conception of dhimmitude and second class citizenship for non-religionists. Theists, atheists, deists, polytheists, all live together in relative peace and harmony in the liberal democracy born in ancient Greece, Judeo-Christian philosophy, and the Enlightenment. We all obey the same laws applied equally to all citizens, and we have a realistic expectation of equal treatment in the eyes of the law, and thus, life is pretty nice. You should take note that many of the islamists on this board live in the West and are actually protected from the very islam they flail their Pom Poms for. There have been antagonistic philosophers, writers, and artists who have pushed the expectations in criticizing the devout. They too have lived full and pleasant lives absent realized death threats, and no one has suffered much for them.

    I'll even suggest that the islamist perception of Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb are just as relevant now, (possibly more so), than in the past. The precepts of Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb allow for rage and resentment against the hated kuffar. It allows incompetence to morph into self pity which morphs into hate for the kuffar who are viewed as the proprietors of islams's ineptitudes. Islamism is popular among islam's Middle Eastern angry "yutes", and it's similarly angry "yutes" in Europe for much the same reason it's popular among American black felons: it allows for and provides excuses for their condition, encourages their resentment of others as the source of their inadequacies, and exhorts them to increased resentment and rage against the kuffar.

    Islam is the only major "religion" that blames other religions for its economic and intellectual poverty and demands violence against "the infidel" in the name of God. In a warped, perverted sense, it's a perfect shield against the stirrings of conscience. With Islam as his "religion", the disaffected and violent man can justify his anger, with Allah's imprimatur. He even gets to brutalize his woman and rape kuffar sluts -- remember "uncovered meat?" -- without supernatural penalty. How great is that?


    Ultimately, I don't believe that there is a great deal that can be done to drag islam out of the Dark Ages. My best advise is this: The West has a willing readiness to take on Islamic terrorists and their hateful program of jihad. Be careful of what you ask Allah for, because once He gives you an angry—and I mean angry—Western civilization, not even He can save you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resigned View Post
    First, some background. If we look at the Islamic Middle East currently, what strikes me is just how fiercely resistant the politico-religious ideology actually is to any sort of revision or reform. This is its single most buttressed impediment to compatibility with the rest of the world.
    Why would it be incompatible?

    If God Commands the Muslims to rule by His Law, then why not? And, btw, if at all, they'd be ruling in their lands and the rules will apply there, so what problem do you have? Why is it getting under your skin?

    If we listen to so many of islam's Sheiks, they tell us in clear and uncompromising terms that islam is held by Muslims to be the only legitimate law for all of mankind, in all places, at all times. By words and actions, Muslims tell us that they are resolutely convinced that their religion came to them in perfect and uncreated form from God so that it will be in all places, for all times.
    Perfectly alright.

    That is the foundation of its unyielding intolerance and contempt (that's not too strong a word, BTW), for all other worldviews.
    I think you're ignoring the verses I showed you in my other post.

    Christianity and Judaism, as we know, met with reform and enlightenment. In short, they grew up and became a positive force for civilization and progress worldwide. In fact, they were instrumental in shaping social climate which fostered the freedoms, science, and prosperity of Western civilization.
    Inspiring! -____-

    I cringe at the notion of Christianity never having undergone a reformation. Witch hunts, burning at the stake, inquisitions,... that would be awful. Today there are many different sects and subdivisions of Christianity, and with a nod to the founding vision of Martin Luther during the sixteenth century, those incarnations of the Christian faith manage to avoid warfare with each other. In fact, they have managed to coexist and flourish within the embrace of secular governance.
    And why would they not? At any rate the Law of God is of no relevance to them, cuz their "sin-debt" has already been paid...ugh!...so if one decides to disobey GOD, what other impediments can there be? So you "legally" allow yourself a free rein to do whatever you want, especially, "legally" get off scot-free at all times...

    The priests and the popes have a very poor record...it's sad actually, in Christianity they're the ones who should be foremost in doing the good and keeping away from sin...but unfortunately it's exactly the opposite.

    CLERGY ABUSE

    Though there ARE some who do uphold religious values...but are eventually silenced by the truly secular government for their "hate speeches"...gah!

    MINISTERS WHO PREACH AGAINST SAME-SEX MARRIAGES MAY BE SUED FOR HATE SPEECH AND RISK GOVERNMENT FINES

    Many argue that Americans need not fear governmental repression of religion given the historically strong constitutional protections of our religious liberties. However, in recent years as same-sex couples have aggressively asserted their “rights” in the courts, there has been an unmistakable trend toward the expansion of the legal privileges of same-sex couples at the expense of the religious liberties of people who morally oppose the legitimization of same-sex relationships.
    So, it's not just the Muslims who fear God, you'd find some devout Christians too. But, since you're an atheist, you'd have to make extra efforts to understand.

    That flexibility is even alluded to in the Gospels: "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's." —Matthew 22:21.
    Law is God's cuz He Created us.

    Western civilization, within secular governments, understands that keeping religion and state separate does not need to be a problem, which is beneficial for the religionists and the non-religionists they live among. There is no conception of dhimmitude and second class citizenship for non-religionists. Theists, atheists, deists, polytheists, all live together in relative peace and harmony in the liberal democracy born in ancient Greece, Judeo-Christian philosophy, and the Enlightenment. We all obey the same laws applied equally to all citizens, and we have a realistic expectation of equal treatment in the eyes of the law, and thus, life is pretty nice.
    And may I know which Islamic country imposes "Dhimmitude" on the non-Muslims?

    As I've already mentioned, I don't know much about it. So would you kindly show me the texts where it says that it's obligatory on the Muslim rulers to impose it.

    You should take note that many of the islamists on this board live in the West and are actually protected from the very islam they flail their Pom Poms for. There have been antagonistic philosophers, writers, and artists who have pushed the expectations in criticizing the devout. They too have lived full and pleasant lives absent realized death threats, and no one has suffered much for them.
    Your point being?

    I'll even suggest that the islamist perception of Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb are just as relevant now, (possibly more so), than in the past.
    What's Dar al-Harb? I've heard of Dar al-Kufr though...

    But, as far as I know,it doesn't exist anymore. So, it's far from being "possibly more so" relevant now..

    The precepts of Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb allow for rage and resentment against the hated kuffar. It allows incompetence to morph into self pity which morphs into hate for the kuffar who are viewed as the proprietors of islams's ineptitudes.
    You sure hate our guts, right?

    Just hate or is it also envy? ^_-

    Islamism is popular among islam's Middle Eastern angry "yutes", and it's similarly angry "yutes" in Europe for much the same reason it's popular among American black felons: it allows for and provides excuses for their condition, encourages their resentment of others as the source of their inadequacies, and exhorts them to increased resentment and rage against the kuffar.
    Poor Psychology.

    If not a majors, didn't you even opt for Psychology at school at least?

    And, what "inadequacies", "incompetence", "ineptitude's" do you keep talking about? huh?!

    FYI, Islam is Complete. PERIOD.

    Oh wait, perhaps you're bad at spelling....yeah, makes perfect sense...and as a result you've horribly spelled "competence", "aptitude" and "adequacy".....that's how you spell em, alright?


    Islam is the only major "religion" that blames other religions for its economic and intellectual poverty and demands violence against "the infidel" in the name of God.
    Give me your evidence. Quranic verses in particular.

    In a warped, perverted sense, it's a perfect shield against the stirrings of conscience.
    Proof?

    Where does the Holy Quran promote any of this sort?

    With Islam as his "religion", the disaffected and violent man can justify his anger, with Allah's imprimatur.
    Are you herbed up or something?

    Didn't I show you the verses which explicitly say that one shouldn't compel anybody to have faith or obey God?

    He even gets to brutalize his woman and rape kuffar sluts --
    Verse?

    I bet you "get to" do the same and even beyond that WAY more than those like you who do it.

    remember "uncovered meat?" -- without supernatural penalty. How great is that?
    I dunno what you're talking about. Please clarify.

    Ultimately, I don't believe that there is a great deal that can be done to drag islam out of the Dark Ages.
    "Dark Ages" blehhh...

    My best advise is this: The West has a willing readiness to take on Islamic terrorists and their hateful program of jihad.
    Is that it? Where's the solution? Sounds more like a threat. LOL, seriously I am SO awkwardly amazed right now.

    This was no better than your miserable history of hopeless rants.

    I'll give you the solution:
    1) Look up the verses that I provided. Just those four at the start. Pretty simple, eh?
    2) Reflect on those.

    AND

    3) Chill. No one's gonna go for the jugular.
    4) Chew gum.
    5) Visit a counselor.

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    Why would it be incompatible?

    If God Commands the Muslims to rule by His Law, then why not? And, btw, if at all, they'd be ruling in their lands and the rules will apply there, so what problem do you have? Why is it getting under your skin?
    You seem not to be able to understand that islamists have this insensate need to force their politico-religious ideology on others.



    Perfectly alright.
    It's not alright when islamism becomes the vehicle for the fascistic imposition of forced religion.



    I think you're ignoring the verses I showed you in my other post.
    I think you're not understanding the verses.


    Inspiring! -____-
    Thanks.



    And why would they not? At any rate the Law of God is of no relevance to them, cuz their "sin-debt" has already been paid...ugh!...so if one decides to disobey GOD, what other impediments can there be? So you "legally" allow yourself a free rein to do whatever you want, especially, "legally" get off scot-free at all times...
    That's ridiculous.


    The priests and the popes have a very poor record...it's sad actually, in Christianity they're the ones who should be foremost in doing the good and keeping away from sin...but unfortunately it's exactly the opposite.

    CLERGY ABUSE

    Though there ARE some who do uphold religious values...but are eventually silenced by the truly secular government for their "hate speeches"...gah!

    MINISTERS WHO PREACH AGAINST SAME-SEX MARRIAGES MAY BE SUED FOR HATE SPEECH AND RISK GOVERNMENT FINES
    As opposed to islam's "holy men" who can be the inspiration for the most gruesome mass murders.



    So, it's not just the Muslims who fear God, you'd find some devout Christians too. But, since you're an atheist, you'd have to make extra efforts to understand.
    Which god(s). If you choose to live in trembling fear brought on by ancient tales amd fables that's your choice. Just don't be offended if I and others reject your baseless claims of gods, demons and things that you feel a need to scare others with.



    Law is God's cuz He Created us.
    There's no ewason to believe that. If you knew your koranology, you would know that the koran has a number of contradictory tales of how man was "created".

    Did you know that "cuz" makes you appear to be a a silly teenager?



    [quoteAnd may I know which Islamic country imposes "Dhimmitude" on the non-Muslims?

    As I've already mentioned, I don't know much about it. So would you kindly show me the texts where it says that it's obligatory on the Muslim rulers to impose it.[/quote]
    It's obvious you know little about dhimmitude and even less about islamist history.



    Your point being?
    The point made was not particularly difficult to understand.


    What's Dar al-Harb? I've heard of Dar al-Kufr though...
    Learn some islamist history.


    But, as far as I know,it doesn't exist anymore. So, it's far from being "possibly more so" relevant now..
    How can anyone be so careless when it comes to the religion they defend?



    [quote]You sure hate our guts, right?

    Just hate or is it also envy? ^_-[/quote
    I don't spend time hating. I do, however, have no issue pointing out the hate that is engendered by your politico-religious ideology. You sure hate the infidels, right? You are required to. It was mandated by your religion's inventor.



    Poor Psychology.

    If not a majors, didn't you even opt for Psychology at school at least?
    Not at all. The data is available.

    And, what "inadequacies", "incompetence", "ineptitude's" do you keep talking about? huh?!
    I only have an 80 gig hard drive.


    FYI, Islam is Complete. PERIOD.
    Nonsense.

    Oh wait, perhaps you're bad at spelling....yeah, makes perfect sense...and as a result you've horribly spelled "competence", "aptitude" and "adequacy".....that's how you spell em, alright?
    You're confused.




    Give me your evidence. Quranic verses in particular.
    Already did.



    Proof?
    Of course.


    Where does the Holy Quran promote any of this sort?
    Read it.



    Are you herbed up or something?
    You're dumbfounded, right?

    Didn't I show you the verses which explicitly say that one shouldn't compel anybody to have faith or obey God?
    No.



    Verse?
    Verse?

    I bet you "get to" do the same and even beyond that WAY more than those like you who do it.
    I do my best, inshallah.



    I dunno what you're talking about. Please clarify.
    Already did.



    "Dark Ages" blehhh...
    Dark Ages, yes.



    Is that it? Where's the solution? Sounds more like a threat. LOL, seriously I am SO awkwardly amazed right now.
    God willing.

    This was no better than your miserable history of hopeless rants.
    Some islamists are beyond help.

    I'll give you the solution:
    1) Look up the verses that I provided. Just those four at the start. Pretty simple, eh?
    2) Reflect on those.
    Simple is as simple does.

    AND

    3) Chill. No one's gonna go for the jugular.
    4) Chew gum.
    5) Visit a counselor.
    How pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resigned View Post
    You seem not to be able to understand that islamists have this insensate need to force their politico-religious ideology on others.
    And who are these "others"?

    It's not alright when islamism becomes the vehicle for the fascistic imposition of forced religion.
    "forced religion"? On?

    If at all the laws apply, it'd be to the Muslims, that too, for their betterment. So why should you freak out?

    I think you're not understanding the verses.
    Then please do help me understand. This was exactly what I had posted...

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    God Almighty Says that one should not forcibly and unjustly dictate over anyone....colonialism?
    "So remind them, you are only a one who reminds."
    "You are not a dictator over them."

    (The Holy Quran, 88:21-22)

    Here God Almighty questions the Prophet (pbuh).....so how could "coercion" be among the tenets of Islam, if God Himself questions it?
    "So, will you then compel mankind, until they become believers?" (The Holy Quran 10:99)

    Faith is primarily a matter of the heart...so even if one accepts Islam verbally for whatever reasons, he'll not be a believer until he/she accepts it in the heart....
    Say: (It is) the truth from the Lord of you (all). Then whosoever will, let him believe, and whosoever will, let him disbelieve (The Holy Quran 18:29)

    Note that the verse says, so "let"...what does that indicate? annihilation of the kafir? Obviously not. In fact, it'd be a SIN to unjustly harm anybody.

    How can any SANE person ignore this?!
    " There is no compulsion in religion." (The Holy Quran 2:256)
    Thanks.
    That wasn't a compliment.

    Stop pretending.

    That's ridiculous.
    You see now? Their sin-debt thing doesn't make sense, eh? But you shouldn't be calling it "ridiculous", just um, illogical, will do.

    As opposed to islam's "holy men" who can be the inspiration for the most gruesome mass murders.
    Like?

    You know a lot about "holiness"...are you a monk? an Atheist monk perhaps?

    Which god(s). If you choose to live in trembling fear brought on by ancient tales amd fables that's your choice. Just don't be offended if I and others reject your baseless claims of gods, demons and things that you feel a need to scare others with.
    Is that a question? Or do you mean "witch" gods? Ah, I remember, you have a poor spelling record...so probably you do. No, I don't believe in 'em, those are too creepy to be true.

    btw, it'd be "goddesses", feminine....uh, Grammar!!

    The ONE True God isn't scary, btw. Funny that you'd say such a thing. o_O

    There's no ewason to believe that. If you knew your koranology, you would know that the koran has a number of contradictory tales of how man was "created".
    In fact if you made sincere efforts to know the Quran, you'd know that it has a number of amazing verses that accurately present the truth about the creation of man.

    So you'd do the reading, right?

    Did you know that "cuz" makes you appear to be a a silly teenager?
    As if I care. I don't wanna impress anyone here, just make my point.

    Silly or not, Alhamdullilah, I believe in God Almighty, which is way smarter than denying His Existence in spite of there being a myriad of evidences.

    [quoteAnd may I know which Islamic country imposes "Dhimmitude" on the non-Muslims?

    As I've already mentioned, I don't know much about it. So would you kindly show me the texts where it says that it's obligatory on the Muslim rulers to impose it.
    It's obvious you know little about dhimmitude and even less about islamist history.
    Guess you know no better.

    The point made was not particularly difficult to understand.
    Whatever.

    Learn some islamist history.

    How can anyone be so careless when it comes to the religion they defend?
    Am I missing something?

    Provide me some actual stuff....maybe links? No, I'm not kidding, I really wanna know..

    [QUOTE]
    You sure hate our guts, right?

    Just hate or is it also envy? ^_-[/quote
    I don't spend time hating. I do, however, have no issue pointing out the hate that is engendered by your politico-religious ideology. You sure hate the infidels, right? You are required to. It was mandated by your religion's inventor.
    No. Instead we're required to be good to everyone.

    Can't you make out from my tone and of the other Muslims on the forums, do we sound rude or hateful? But you do sound.

    Not at all. The data is available.
    Okay. Please feel free to share it.

    I only have an 80 gig hard drive.
    What?

    LOL!! That's so random. You make me suspicious. 0_0

    Dude, don't worry, you don't need to replace your hard drive just get yourself another gig, probably in an Islamic institution/your local mosque or the department of English of any university! =/

    Nonsense.
    It makes perfect sense.

    You're confused.
    You need to learn Spelling.

    Already did.
    Where?

    Perhaps it's an invisible post? a "witch" thing too? *shudders*

    You're dumbfounded, right?
    Will you stop playing the fool?

    Didn't I show you the verses which explicitly say that one shouldn't compel anybody to have faith or obey God?
    No.
    So, you lie? Just cuz you think there's no resurrection, doesn't mean that it's a make-believe. You'll have to be accountable for all that you do. This isn't called scaring or getting scared. Any sensible person, would try to explore it further and try to reach out to the truth. Do you understand what I'm saying?

    Verse?
    ugh!

    I do my best, inshallah.
    No, you don't! If at all you did, why'd you confess so easily?

    Whoa! x__x

    *nods in disapproval*

    Dark Ages, yes.
    Bah!

    God willing.
    what? o_O

    So, you don't have a SOLUTION? I understand. Cuz, there's no real problem on the first place, you were just trippin'.

    Some islamists are beyond help.
    I'm a Muslim and NOT an "Islamist"! You better get that straight.

    Simple is as simple does.
    Then why you find it difficult to apply? If it's that simple for you then you should be taking heed.

    How pointless.
    Not really.

    Try paying a lil bit more attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicStar View Post
    And who are these "others"?
    Islamist history is replete with them.



    "forced religion"? On?
    The non-islamists.




    If at all the laws apply, it'd be to the Muslims, that too, for their betterment. So why should you freak out?
    Yes, forced religion is for your betterment.



    Then please do help me understand. This was exactly what I had posted...
    I've tried to help you.




    That wasn't a compliment.
    Yes it was.


    Stop pretending.
    Who's pretending?


    You see now? Their sin-debt thing doesn't make sense, eh? But you shouldn't be calling it "ridiculous", just um, illogical, will do.
    Illogical and ridiculous.


    Like?
    Like.


    You know a lot about "holiness"...are you a monk? an Atheist monk perhaps?
    I know more about islamist history.


    Is that a question? Or do you mean "witch" gods? Ah, I remember, you have a poor spelling record...so probably you do. No, I don't believe in 'em, those are too creepy to be true.

    btw, it'd be "goddesses", feminine....uh, Grammar!!
    You're confused.





    The ONE True God isn't scary, btw. Funny that you'd say such a thing. o_O
    You mean Zeus, right?


    In fact if you made sincere efforts to know the Quran, you'd know that it has a number of amazing verses that accurately present the truth about the creation of man.
    In fact, I know the koran and there is little truth to be had.


    So you'd do the reading, right?
    Have you ever made any attempt to understand what you've read?


    As if I care. I don't wanna impress anyone here, just make my point.
    When will you do that?



    Silly or not, Alhamdullilah, I believe in God Almighty, which is way smarter than denying His Existence in spite of there being a myriad of evidences.
    That's so silly, unless you mean evidence for Zeus.


    Guess you know no better.
    Actually, I do.


    Whatever.
    You're befuddled.


    Am I missing something?
    Every sentence.

    Provide me some actual stuff....maybe links? No, I'm not kidding, I really wanna know..
    Already did.


    No. Instead we're required to be good to everyone.
    That's nice.


    Can't you make out from my tone and of the other Muslims on the forums, do we sound rude or hateful?
    Yes.


    Okay. Please feel free to share it.
    Okay


    What?
    Yes.



    LOL!! That's so random. You make me suspicious. 0_0
    That's nice.


    Dude, don't worry, you don't need to replace your hard drive just get yourself another gig, probably in an Islamic institution/your local mosque or the department of English of any university! =/
    I'll remembert to send you a link regarding your use of "cuz".


    It makes perfect sense.
    On what planet?


    You need to learn Spelling.
    My spelling is impeccable. When has "cuz" become a word for grownups?


    Where?
    Everywhere.


    Perhaps it's an invisible post? a "witch" thing too? *shudders*
    You're still confused?


    Will you stop playing the fool?
    Presupposition. Will you stop selling sexual favors for money?


    So, you lie? Just cuz you think there's no resurrection, doesn't mean that it's a make-believe. You'll have to be accountable for all that you do. This isn't called scaring or getting scared. Any sensible person, would try to explore it further and try to reach out to the truth. Do you understand what I'm saying?
    If you knew what you were talking about, it might be easier to understand what you're "saying". I have no reason to be afraid of your gods.




    ugh!
    Masterful concision.


    No, you don't! If at all you did, why'd you confess so easily?
    What did I confess to?


    Whoa! x__x
    Pointless.



    *nods in disapproval*
    More of the same.


    Bah!
    Your posts are better when limited to single syllable, single word phrases.


    what? o_O
    ... or pointless keyboard characters.


    So, you don't have a SOLUTION? I understand. Cuz, there's no real problem on the first place, you were just trippin'.
    Are you asking if I have a solution to islamism and islamic terrorism?


    I'm a Muslim and NOT an "Islamist"! You better get that straight.
    Islamist is a term of endearment for... well... islamists.


    Then why you find it difficult to apply? If it's that simple for you then you should be taking heed.
    I'm taking heed of the herd.


    Not really.
    Insh allah.


    Try paying a lil bit more attention.
    Try composing coherent sentences.

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