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Tia Ali
14th April 2008, 21:16
I am just wondering if anyone has ever contacted Dr Hassan, who is based in the US (Los Angeles). He is a quranic spiritual healer and claims to bring relief to the evil effects of black magic. On the quranic healing website, there are people who have said that Dr Hassan has managed to help them.
It would interesting to hear from anyone who has ever contacted him for their problems.
Ron
15th April 2008, 01:11
Can anyone explain this fascination with magic and spells? What drives people to immediately look in that direction? Why are people so convinced?
Bishadi
17th April 2008, 20:45
Hope.
With as little knowledge as necessary, someone can use the guise of beliefs to instill hope within the idea that what you don't understand, God governs the phenomenon.
So be good and all that scary stuff can't hurt you.
Remember it used to be God(s) that invoked the plague or locus or famine or natural disasters. Or even to bring rain.
But with a new kind of twist, now people can invoke 'evil spirits' all the while untrue.
The worst thing a human can do is fib and them spirits of deciet can have a whole country worth of people on an incorrect path.
Ron
18th April 2008, 00:46
Bishadi,
Your religion is the "The truth!" what is it?
Regards
Bishadi
18th April 2008, 18:26
Bishadi,
Your religion is the "The truth!" what is it?
Regards
All of them, yet not a single sect.
If someone wanted to identify a religion, then the 'truth' is all that can be described.
Based from the observations of most every religion, most of the living philosophies and definitely of physical truths (the sciences).....
The combination of each branch of knowledge simply revealed the truth.
As was suggested a long time ago; knowledge will combine the 4 colors of mankind and that promise will be fullfilled!
Ron
18th April 2008, 23:41
Hello Bishadi,
All of them
All religions are your religion? What if they contradict each other how am I supposed to know what you believe?
If someone wanted to identify a religion, then the 'truth' is all that can be described.
Even if it is not?
The combination of each branch of knowledge simply revealed the truth.
How so?
As was suggested a long time ago; knowledge will combine the 4 colors of mankind and that promise will be fullfilled!
What colors? What promise? Please explain.
Regards
Bishadi
19th April 2008, 15:00
All religions are your religion? What if they contradict each other how am I supposed to know what you believe? Even when some ideas contradict, the universal truths of compassion do not.
Ideas of faith have purpose, it is the good of each that resonate what is true.
What colors? Black, White, Red and Yellow.
What promise? Knowledge of life; the truth.
Please explain. Every soul on this globe at some point in their life tries to understand what makes us alive and why our choices are so important.
That choice to truly seek these truths without any bias or submission to any cause other than observing what is universal and correct, is a promise made as a child.
That over the course of life, the search, the homework, with one single intent, to understand has been the rule. The objective is to share that knowledge for the new generation in which no sect, no belief, no institution or government will own, control or corrupt the knowledge.
Nothing can stop the truth from unfolding. What is strange is the elders of some sects simply do not comprehend what is being presented and rather than use their intellect to inquire, they refuse to interact or associate, simply because the truth often contradicts the paths held in beliefs.
If any want to know what I believe, then the best answer is the truth. Magic is not an option, omnipotence has never existed and each and every phenomenon known to exist can be addressed. (a)
vinod
19th April 2008, 15:11
a promise made as a child.
To whom?
Knowledge of life; the truth
Pls list a few ingredients of the truth to illustrate. Thanks
Bishadi
19th April 2008, 16:01
To whom? God, Allah, or literally existence itself; the total; ONE!
Pls list a few ingredients of the truth to illustrate. Thanks
"Magic is not an option, omnipotence has never existed and each and every phenomenon known to exist can be addressed "
Ron
19th April 2008, 20:06
Hello Bishadi,
Even when some ideas contradict, the universal truths of compassion do not.
Compassion is not a religion. However, all the religions I know of (except maybe Satanism) consist of compassion so I don't think this applies as a contradiction. I am speaking of belief. With a religion comes beliefs, what are yours and if all then when they contradict which do you choose?
Ideas of faith have purpose, it is the good of each that resonate what is true.
Who sets the purpose? How do we establish good from bad?
Black, White, Red and Yellow.
These are colors of people? I don't think this is a universally accepted description.
Knowledge of life; the truth.
What does "knowledge of life" mean?
Every soul on this globe at some point in their life tries to understand what makes us alive and why our choices are so important.
How do you know this?
That choice to truly seek these truths without any bias or submission to any cause other than observing what is universal and correct, is a promise made as a child.
See Vinod's question.
That over the course of life, the search, the homework, with one single intent, to understand has been the rule. The objective is to share that knowledge for the new generation in which no sect, no belief, no institution or government will own, control or corrupt the knowledge.
What is knowledge?
Nothing can stop the truth from unfolding. What is strange is the elders of some sects simply do not comprehend what is being presented and rather than use their intellect to inquire, they refuse to interact or associate, simply because the truth often contradicts the paths held in beliefs.
How can we be sure you know the truth?
If any want to know what I believe, then the best answer is the truth. Magic is not an option, omnipotence has never existed and each and every phenomenon known to exist can be addressed.
You still have not defined what the "truth" is, please explain.
Regards
vinod
20th April 2008, 00:38
"Magic is not an option, omnipotence has never existed and each and every phenomenon known to exist can be addressed "
How do you form this is/not list of the ingredients of the truth? What rationale/framework or coherent basis do you use? More specifically, 'magic' exists for a large part of the world's population. How do you know that it does not?
Thanks
Bishadi
20th April 2008, 20:31
How do you form this is/not list of the ingredients of the truth? ‘Integrity’ is the only prime ingredient for representing the truth.
What rationale/framework or coherent basis do you use? Facts, not stories, now represented in beliefs.
More specifically, 'magic' exists for a large part of the world's population. How do you know that it does not?
Because nothing in reality or of direct experience has ever been left open to an indescribable or magical occurrence. The only magic is mans ability to lie about what is true.
But the proof is to recognize that as knowledge has continued to evolve each phenomenon eventually becomes a physical reality (understood) versus a magical belief.
The same goes with evil or jinns…. Each are of people, not magic.
Just as to continue a fib is simply a jinn; continuing to live.
Compassion is not a religion. Should be as it is a universal truth each human can physically experience even without knowledge.
I am speaking of belief. With a religion comes beliefs, what are yours and if all then when they contradict which do you choose? I choose the truth and if there is not one to recognize between stories does not mean I choose to represent a fib. For example; Isaac and Ishmael are said to be brothers from Abraham which would mean that the lineages now of Israel and Palestinians would be brothers as well, does that mean if I obtain DNA evidence to prove this, would it make a difference? So the stories may conflict, and even the truth may stand up, but it is not me that is important, it is all of us and the truth of each matter is far more important. The key focus to pursue is the day when each can remain with absolute integrity when representing what is true and remove what is believed as the priority to compassionate interactions.
Who sets the purpose? Life is purposed to continue. Just as you speak, you have a purpose and want it to be heard. Just as the baby is born, in each the purpose; is to continue.
How do we establish good from bad? Good: supports life. Bad: loss to the common. See any religious rules and observe this form along side each. (to kill a person… the damage to the family etc…. to kill an animal just for fun; all of existence experienced the loss) Unique part is, this can be perfected in nature, math and science, not to mention theologically and philosophically.
These are colors of people? I don't think this is a universally accepted description. not concerned with what is currently accepted but between you and I, will peace ever exist on earth without each of the 4 accepting a unifying scope of knowledge? And only the truth will bring them together, see the Hopi Indian for a descriptions.
What does "knowledge of life" mean? that every soul ever to be or was born have all wanted to know a few questions regarding life. And religions have never answered all the questions as well neither have the sciences but the funny part is, life is what actually revealed the truth or the true understanding.
In a physics or mathematical sense, the current models cannot account for the increased potential of 2 masses over and above the sum of the 2 separately. Meaning, 2 people can lift a greater amount than the 2 separately when you add the sum of each individually. This at the molecular level is has a specific mathematical error still within the current sciences. (I often refer to this as; ‘walking the Planck’)
Look up Planck if you like and find he set the tone by retaining Newton’s entropy as law, which is incorrect.
So when a mention of these things are represented, a real clear point to observe is the change is not conforming to one side or another as even the scientific minds of the globe will have their heals turned up once they get a hand on the work being prepared for them. The paradigm shift is not simply for one branch but to represent the truth which in fact combines them. Existence only operates in one fashion and as each have contributed none have completed the framework.
The change is to observe ‘light’ as the energy between all mass. A trinity of existence is based on Mass, Energy and Time. And within this is our existence, all one with and a part of the total; God. So to trust and Love God, then to honor his progressions, his evolution, his integrity of nature rather than ever simply honoring the words (all man created) just to be accepted or appreciated by mankind as God is only truly honored by our integrity to existence itself.
As mass evolved into living things, knowledge has evolved to describe these.
That pinnacle of evolution is when mass knows how it exists; in understanding!
As it is written that ‘the truth will be revealed’ from most every religion.
Then as each is capable of choice, then each can know how to create an ever-lasting life based on each choice. As it is only of mankind, that we can create a life based on what we do… if it is good, we live…. If it is not, then eventually, extinct.
BritishSomaliSis~
22nd April 2008, 14:07
Can anyone explain this fascination with magic and spells? What drives people to immediately look in that direction? Why are people so convinced?
beats me lol I myself cant seem to understand.
Azeem
18th October 2008, 03:40
aoa.
well i dont know how to post a mesg in the main. because i have just got registered with this site today.
i think i am a a prey of black magic..because i have been in a severe headache for the last 5 years. and my bones in my head and face come outwards with extreme pain and clicking sounds. and my face has got quite de-shaped..
i was having a gud personality but i now look a very weaker one by face...
my face has got enlarged and weak.and head has got bigger..
can anyone help me out in this matter? i got myself checked up by doctors but they said this is not present in medical history... but it is happening . i consulted with aalims all of them said that i m suffereing with SEHAR and some said BLACK MAGIC... so what is the probable solution of my problem..
i did many amaliyaat. sometimes i started feeling very good.and when i thought that i m going to be good. it started again...
plz help me out by telling first of all that ...how can i myself know that it is a BLACK MAGIC//??? is there any amal or istakhaara to know about it..because i dont know that the people were good aaamil or imposters, well i dont want to say imposter about them. because they did not look like that..some of them i can trust.
thanks
Azeem..
Ron
18th October 2008, 13:55
Salam Azeem,
Welcome to the forum.
God knows, but I believe your issue is medical not magical. Read some information here: http://www.merck.com/mmpe/sec19/ch284/ch284m.html Your headaches could be a result of your jaw. You could have gout. Also, check this site http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/sym/bone_symptoms.htm
I'm not a doctor and I am not giving medical advice but I am trying to help you go in the right direction to find a solution. Going the path of magic is misleading and paved with pitfalls, and that's the danger in it.
alan
18th October 2008, 15:40
Salaam ,
Echoeing what has just been said,GET MEDICAL ADVICE NOW.
Its not possible for doctors to ignore these types of symptoms.
Sadiq_b
18th October 2008, 17:09
Assalamoalaykum Azeem,
I don't know which country you are from. I would request you with all sincerity that brother please visit some good and maybe expensive hospital. I say expensive because in many countries (like mine) the good medical facilities tend to be very expensive.
Please visit some good medical facility and let them diagnose your problem. Also together keep praying to Allah and give alms, ask others to pray for you, InshaAllah you will find a solution.
Magic may or may not exist but its destructive to not take medical help thinking it's magic. May Allah bless you with good health.
lumumba_s
18th October 2008, 19:28
As salamu `alaykum,
Despite our differences on this issue, I would have to lean towards Ron's interpretation. From what I recall from the descriptions of those who perhaps once shared the typical modern skepticism regarding such supernatural events, but who now believe they themselves have witnessed what they would describe as quasi-natural "forces", I do not recall anything of physical effects of black magic upon the body. Rather, from what they and others have described, it seems to be more of a psychological disturbance, which is why Western psychologist would classify possessions as schizo-effective disorder. There certainly are people who heal by means of "alternative" methods, but they typically do not have websites. If your condition has been observed by others as truly being a physical phenomenon, you need to see a doctor.
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