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kilpatrick
28th February 2003, 14:04
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/
Checked out this website. Before I have my own conclusions, tell me: Is it worth checking out? Is it recommended? Or is it some sort of ploy?
Someone
28th February 2003, 14:34
kilpatrick who are you and what are your intentions? By the way i did't click on the website you mentioned.
kilpatrick
2nd March 2003, 03:29
I have no intentions other than needing your guidance as well as the guidance of many other brothers in this post. There are so many articles regarding our being here, as a Muslim, I'm not sure how to comprehend this. Are these articles lies? Or are there any semblance of truth in them?
And thus, I need your helpful review of http://www.jews-for-allah.org/ to see whether it's worth checking out.
Ronnie
2nd March 2003, 03:51
Salam,
I have been to this website many times. I have not seen anything that would make me believe this is not an authentic Islamic web site. They deal with all aspects of Islam and focus on Jews who converted to Islam. It's an interesting site to explore, I don't see anything wrong with it. It really all depends on your goals. Are you trying to learn more about Islam, are you only a beginner in your explorations...etc... So it all depends on you. Insha'Allah, you will find what you are looking for. We are all here to assist and learn from one another. So, get comfortable and ask whatever you'd like.
Wassalam
Hitler was not catholic except in his early years.
Catholics, jews, and muslims were all persecuted by hitler.
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Creationism/Essays/Hitler.shtml
Ofcourse he had some christian believes but they were
all distored.
So "Jews for islam" is not being true to history. I would
have little faith that they are being true to anything else.
Don't they know that first tribes muslims conquered were jewish?
Now there might be some truths in this site but
the snake wraps its self around the tree of knowledge. Only
the venomous head is off the tree to strike.
There are tons of just infactual lies.
"Between Constantine and cohorts, the entire foundation of modern Christianity was developed."
gopher://ccat.sas.upenn.edu:3333/11/Religious/ChurchWriters/ApostolicFathers
Did Jesus died on the cross? Well you could say he didn't but
that would deny everything in the new testament. In every miracle
Jesus shows his passion. He changed water into wine. This
was water in the ceromonial cleaning jars. This emphasize that his
death would bring the cleansing of sins.
He gives the bread of life, the bread of his body. Again his final passion to die for our sins.
He cures those with leprosy,
this meant that he as the power to cleanse sin. By giving
his disciples the power to heal through him, he has given
them the power to forgive sins through him.
None of this matters because they could as just easily say that
this never happend. But it is much better
to do that than to argue from the bible that Jesus was not God.
menj
7th March 2003, 11:33
http://pwp.maxis.net.my/menj/nazi-church.jpg
The image speaks for itself as to whether Hitler was a faithful Christian or otherwise.
As for the miracles of Jesus (P), we certainly affirm it. But that does not mean that they automatically "testify" that the story of Jesus'(P) crucification is true.
- MENJ
Hitler's no more christian/catholic than the Albingensian
Heresy. http://brandt.kurowski.net/projects/lsa/wiki/view.cgi?doc=520
Just holding the belief that Jesus was not jewish makes
him a heretic to the catholic church. Hitler actually
wanted to kidnap the pope. To claim that Hitler was
catholic in latter years is a gross inacurracy.
Unfortunatly much of this anti-catholic sources
actually come from christian sources such
as http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/#rc
It usually stems from belief that there translation of
the bible is the perfect word of god and the only word of god.
This is all contrary to history since most of the
books from the gospel were written in 70AD by
members of what is now the catholic church.
So do you have the date of the photo,
priest name? what denomination is the priest? where
is the source of the photograph?
As an analogy it would be like me telling you that
Bin Laden is a good muslim. To be muslim you must not only
believe in the Quran but also must practice it.
Hitler's views arn't endemic to any specific
religion. The crux of his believe was that
only aryans are from Adam and Eve
but all other races evolve from monkeys. This could be
easily modeled into muslim. In fact aryan means arab but
was latter contrued to mean white, blue eyed german
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/9587/attrelig.html
http://geneva.rutgers.edu/src/faq/hitler.html
http://www.lawandreligion.com/
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