Science And Man

[IDAHIJ]

A VERY BEAUTIFUL ARTICLE FOR ALL BROTHERS IN ISLAM.

http://www.tasawwuf.org/writings/sermons/khutbat_sixv1.pdf

[Ratatosk]

Salaam

The linked article has little or no scientific value. The pH-scale (potential hydrogen, the value corresponing to hydrogen ion concentration) is not a scale w/ only two possible values. Water has a neutral pH. Et cetera.

Tired,
-JC, Finland.

[xp²]

IDAHIJ,

What do you think of "Sufism" and the Sufi's ? Are they a deviated group?

[Yahya Sulaiman]

All groups that broke away from the original (Sunni) Islam are deviated groups, if I understand the term you're using correctly. The Koran strictly forbids anyone from breaking God's religion into sects:

Lo! As for those who sunder their religion and become schismatics, no concern at all hast thou with them. (Surah 6, Verse 159, Pickthall)

If you're going to consider yourself to be a Muslim, you must either call yourself merely a Muslim withut a sect, or call yourself a Sunni--Sunnah being the original brand of Islam, the sect that existed before there were sects). If you don't do one of these two things, you'll be disobeying the very Book you claim to believe in. In fact, you'll be disobeying it (mind-bogglingly enough) with your very belief in it! Don't listen to people who tell you that their sect isn't really a sect but just "an alternate approach to looking at the religion". Changing the name of something will not change the thing itself. One only has to look at the meaning of the word "sect" to see that a sect is just what these people always are. Here's the definition of "sect" at dictionary.com:

1. A group of people forming a distinct unit within a larger group by virtue of certain refinements or distinctions of belief or practice.
2. A religious body, especially one that has separated from a larger denomination.
3. A faction united by common interests or beliefs.

So there's no getting around it: either you're a Sunni, or you consider yourself a Muslim without a sect but who instead simply practices mere Islam, or you disobey the Koran.

[xp²]

Sufi's don't necessarily form a breakaway sect or group. They believe as the Sunni's do, in the rightful Khalifa's after Prophet. They just have extra emphasis on the inner mystical aspect of Islam, paying lots of attention to the heart, continual remembrance of Allah, and generally upholding the essence/spirit of Islam with the Letter.

So its more like a "school of thought" than a sect.

[Yahya Sulaiman]

I'm naturally not an authority on the subject, but I would say that as long as they are a sort of category of Sunnis rather than a group that broke away from the Sunnis, it's okay.

[sheik]

salaam,

brother yahya,

actually the statment you made

All groups that broke away from the original (Sunni) Islam are deviated groups, if I understand the term you're using correctly. The Koran strictly forbids anyone from breaking God's religion into sects:

crosses the boundry of acutallity. in actuallity and as history has proven shia islam is the true islam not sunni the so called 'origninal' this can be further proven in the sect and sectarian issues section, brother BOY-NICE, Sister Isma, and my self do a wonderful job of proving this.

lets stick to science here not who is following the correct isalm. Allah knows best.

salaam